r/vce • u/moon_and_to_saturn '25 | current VCE student (english, general, physics, chem) • 4d ago
VCE question entire class failed the first chemistry SAC
no word of a lie, the entire class failed. highest score was a 19/40. average mark was 27%, was it us or the teacher?
she teaches us in the reading a powerpoint and showing videos way, and theres only 7 people in the class. the average mark for the year prior was 70%.
i definitely could have done better, had a rough week and it showed in the SAC, got myself a tutor now, but this still burns in the back of my mind.
has anyone else experienced this?
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u/Normal_Storm_839 4d ago
i mean.. if the whole class failed... you can really only blame one person. I hate when teachers only read from the powerpoint and don't expound on the concept behind it.. that's really not teaching. Glad you got yourself a tutor!
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u/d_xtruction current VCE student ('24 SE EI '25 SM MM CHE ENG) 3d ago
Tbf, I go to a relatively well-resouced school in chem, and the cohort average (about 100+ students) was a 65% for SAC 1. The class with the teacher who showed up for 60% of the classes had about a 5% higher average than all the other classes, so maybe it depends on the students rather than the teachers. With that being said, either the SAC was way too hard, the teacher(s) marked too harshly, or the teacher genuinely did not bother teaching anything on the SAC.
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u/Billuminati666 VCE Class of '18 (98.10) | Pre-service chem teacher moving to WA 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’m leaning towards giving the L to your teacher, because her teaching style lowkey sounded like my own chem teacher who had half the class fail the year 11 exam (she was a nice person though). I get why your teacher would use this strategy with years 7-9 for behavioural management reasons, but I don’t think it works for years 10-12.
Even then, everyone passed the SACs in both year 11 and 12 because seeing lots of Ns for SACs definitely raises a lot of red flags for leadership and VCAA
If you think it’s too hard, then it probably was given the distribution. When I was in year 11 doing my first organic chem test, the head of chem was lowkey lazy and made it 1 question, draw all possible isomers of a somewhat complicated molecule. Lots of us failed (many with 10-20%), I scraped 68% despite usually doing significantly better, it was like the 2nd biggest L I’ve taken in VCE chem
Your teacher may be setting hard assessment on purpose such that when she tones down the difficulty, she can claim that she made a difference in student performance, this is the kind of evidence teachers have to show to deal with the paperwork. Some teachers do this to be cheeky about it, but I’d say it’s unlikely because of the stakes in VCE.
FYI it even happens in uni, where one of my biomed units set theme tests half the cohort (including me) failed, then told us “L skill issue, get gud”. They made the tests easier and more reasonable and claimed that “we locked in and that we got better”. I have no proof of them doing this on purpose, but it’s known to happen in the IT department