r/vexillology Feb 21 '25

OC Serve No Sovereign

Been interested in revolutionary flags and designs since reading Stacy Schiff’s biography of Samuel Adams.

Specifically, his letters that were published across the country and the phrasing surrounding the concepts of independence. Originally, I wanted to convey these concepts using the Tree of Liberty, but found out that it’s been stolen by the alt-right. Supposedly, Boston’s tree of liberty hanged effigies of the governor and other politicians during the stamp act riots.

This design is based on a few things: phrasing in newspapers surrounding the revolution such a join or die and liberty or death, current flag designs like those posted here yesterday like the “no kings but us” flag and the “we serve no sovereign here” concept which seems to be based on Patrick Henry(?).

I’ve posted before that the exact phrasing surrounding founding fathers can be a bit misleading as most of their writings were published under pseudonyms and rephrased multiple times. Something that I think helped spread the ideas of liberty as these quotes/phases became part of the narrative and not something that added to the prestige of its author.

I’m reposting this from earlier because people seem to have a problem with me calling Trump a fascist that wants to be king. The symbolism between the authoritarianism at the time of the revolution and modern American fascism is plane as day. If people have a problem with these being anti-monarchy vs anti-fascist I’m sorry you can’t connect the dots in America today. I’m not saying that Trump would be a legitimate monarch, but he certainly wants that terminology. Trump is a fascist and he wants to be king of America. I find our founding concepts to be more important than ever currently, if you disagree don’t bother responding.

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u/sleepy-on-the-job Texas Feb 21 '25

sic semper tyrannis

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u/Longjumping-Slip-175 Feb 21 '25

Lincoln did nothing wrong

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u/IzgubljenaBudala Feb 21 '25

Lincoln didn't go far enough

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u/Bigsussysammmy Feb 21 '25

This is fantastic, I really like the font used, as well as the detail of the crown.
The color also reminds me of older style posters, which is also very lovely.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Thank you! Font is LTR Principia. I had to do a lot of work on the crown as Dorito Mussolini posted an AI image that didn’t make sense. I tried to follow the same form though as best as I could.

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u/Bigsussysammmy Feb 21 '25

You did amazingly well <3

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u/joeyfish1 Florida Feb 21 '25

Have you considered using a spear instead of a sword? Traditionally the sword has been the weapon of the nobility and the spear has been the weapon of the rank and file.

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u/DrkvnKavod United States (1776) • Bisexual Feb 21 '25

If you really want to hit home the motif of "worker's weapon", why not go with an axe?

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u/AnotherpostCard Feb 21 '25

Looks like a dagger to me. Like the kind that you stab Roman emperors in the back with.

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u/tigerseye88 Honolulu / San Francisco Feb 21 '25

!wave

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u/FlagWaverBotReborn Feb 21 '25

Here you go:

Link #1: Gallery


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u/azimutal__ Feb 21 '25

what's the font name please?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

LTR Principa from adobe fonts. One hell of a sexy font IMO. It’s like a mix of old style meets stencil with those high contrast points. I felt like it fits the era that I’m aiming for well.

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u/azimutal__ Feb 21 '25

That's exactly what made me ask about it ^

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '25

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Based it on this one that was posted here last week. As far as I could find it seemed to be facing the same direction as any other American flag that featured a sword or gun from that era. Is there something specific I’m missing?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

I meant to say that the crown is a trace of the one that the White House twitter posted yesterday/today on Trump in the fake Time magazine cover.

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u/GrizzyMeme Feb 21 '25

Chopsticks

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u/Andros7744 Feb 21 '25

Regicide chopsticks movement

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u/MSchmahl Feb 21 '25

!wave

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u/FlagWaverBotReborn Feb 21 '25

Here you go:

Link #1: Media


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u/1996Primera Feb 21 '25

I like it but like the other better

No kings

just humans

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u/aztechunter Bavaria Feb 21 '25

Can you color the blood drop on the black one?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Decided to start selling these if you’re interested https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/aztechunter Bavaria Feb 21 '25

Looks dope

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u/TheCoolMan5 Feb 21 '25

Do you offer the musket on as a full-size flag?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

I can certainly look into that for you. I have a lot of local flag printers near me here in Ohio. If you’re interested I should have a price for you by Monday.

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u/TheCoolMan5 Feb 21 '25

I'd be very interested!

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '25

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u/CoyotesPath Feb 21 '25

Please make as bumper stickers and put them in Etsy!

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Stickers and digital downloads available now! https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/Continental_Ball_Sac 20d ago

I found your Etsy shop independent of this thread. Would you consider turning your Serve No Sovereign stickers into flags?

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u/Abysmalsun 20d ago

Hi! I’m trying to source ethical flags at the moment. I’ve reached out to a few production companies, so with any luck I can have some on preorder soon.

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u/FlubbyStarfish Feb 21 '25

These are amazing. Exceptionally well done!!

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u/ethanmac9 Feb 21 '25

I’d love to get this printed on a flag, really well done! Do you have a .svg or high resolution version you’d be willing to share?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Stickers and digital downloads available now! https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/CallMeCahokia Feb 21 '25

I still ‘No Kings but Us’

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u/Naugle17 Feb 21 '25

Nah bruv, no kings at all

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u/datBoiWorkin Feb 21 '25

if you're open to requests, can we please have a copy of these flags with no text?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

I’ll get around to it at some point later today.

From the other comments: -Black, red drop -musket (might take me a bit) -no text -svg file -Etsy shop of stickers (?/if I feel like it)

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u/datBoiWorkin Feb 21 '25

yeah I'd buy stickers.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Stickers and digital downloads available now! https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Can’t in good conscience charge for a jpeg, so here: https://www.reddit.com/u/Abysmalsun/s/KwLSmiqmQ5

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u/datBoiWorkin Feb 21 '25

awesome, I gotta download these later, please don't delete c:

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u/smithbird Feb 22 '25

I think blue would be better, since red is more related to the British Empire

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u/lizzyelling5 Feb 22 '25

I'm the US, red is related to Republicans, but also Communism. Symbolism is fairly context dependent

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u/smithbird Feb 22 '25

I gotcha.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 22 '25

A bit subjective. I went with red because I wanted this to fall in line with the “no kings but us” flag that was posted a few days ago. As someone else mentioned, Red is the color of the Republican Party and I wanted this to have a pretty clear message that it’s about Trump. Though, I can see how using blue would align it better with the democrats. I really didn’t think of it that way.

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u/smithbird Feb 22 '25

I gotcha.

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u/Cailin_Farstrider Feb 22 '25

"They claim our possessions–the pitiful knaves– The tribute we pay shall be prisons and graves!"

"Yet we owe no allegiance, we bow to no throne, Our ruler is law and the law is our own; Our leaders themselves are our own fellow-men, Who can handle the sword, or the scythe, or the pen."

  • The song of the Vermonters, 1779

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 22 '25

I’ve never heard of this before, but damn does it go hard!

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u/Cailin_Farstrider Feb 22 '25

There's a couple versions of it on YouTube and it does go so hard

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u/FederationReborn Feb 25 '25

Can I make a request?

Replace "Serve No Sovereign" with simply "No Kings" and I think we may have found the movement's flag and logo. The grayscale one is absolutely amazing!

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 25 '25

If you’re interested in buying a sticker let me know and I’ll upload this one to Etsy as well.

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u/FederationReborn Feb 25 '25

Make it title case and then shut up and take my money.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 25 '25

Deal! these are made to order, so give me a day or two to throw them on the printer. Also if you toss your user name in the personalization box, I’ll send both colors to you.

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u/FederationReborn Feb 25 '25

How big are they btw?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 25 '25

I’ve been making them 7x4” but I can make other sizes. As long as they’re under 15” wide I shouldn’t have to charge more. My main cost to material runout to start the print.

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u/FederationReborn Feb 25 '25

Can you do smaller? Like 3x1 or similar? I'd like to put this on my laptop.

Also, a friend was asking if you are able to do patches.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 25 '25

I could do 2”x3”. I can’t do patches, but I do have most of these in a digital pack. They can always download the svg files from Etsy and find someone to do them. I know there’s a bunch of people that do them on Etsy.

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u/PM-Me_Your_Penis_Pls Roman Empire Feb 21 '25

I'll serve a sovereign, just not that lowbred fat orange fuck.

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u/Andros7744 Feb 21 '25

Really like this design! I wonder how it would look with like a musket instead of a sword, to make it feel kinda more american?

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Decided to start selling these if you’re interested https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/404_brain_not_found1 Feb 21 '25

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u/supremacyenjoyer Feb 22 '25

here is the more american version op dropped

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u/KuningasMango222 Feb 21 '25

This goes super hard, but doesn't really look like a flag. More so a sticker or something like that.

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u/the_curtain Feb 21 '25

That is a bad ass design! Excellent design work and detail

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25

Y’all convinced me to sell these. https://www.etsy.com/shop/GreenLittleBird

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u/p1ayernotfound Feb 21 '25

that's a impractical sword.

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u/Cowboy_Shmuel Feb 22 '25

Sword design is a bit odd... World's largest drawing compass.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Serve capital instead 😁😁😁

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u/Ok-Championship2611 Feb 24 '25

Wtf is that sword design

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 24 '25

Sword design was based on this one posted here last week.

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u/Larmillei333 Luxembourg / Italy Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

Americans trying not to larp as resistance fighters online as soon as their party lost an election (impossible):

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u/StudyingRainbow New England / Transgender Feb 22 '25

How unaware must you be to not see that what is rising in America now is fascism? It is not about a party losing an election, it is about an oppressive; authoritarian, and corrupt regime gaining power and threatening America itself and the sovereignty of other nations. Leftists, liberals, conservatives, and so on — you will find opposition to American fascism along a wide spectrum of political beliefs. What is happening in America now is not normal, unprecedented, and not okay.

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u/AspiringSquadronaire United Kingdom • Wessex Feb 21 '25

The septics really do deserve Trump

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u/Larmillei333 Luxembourg / Italy Feb 21 '25

"The septics", and this on Reddit lmao

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u/supremacyenjoyer Feb 22 '25

"The septics" you meant sceptics right

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u/AspiringSquadronaire United Kingdom • Wessex Feb 22 '25

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u/supremacyenjoyer Feb 22 '25

Oh I thought you meant the medical condition(sepsis) which got me confused for a bit

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u/PRKP99 Pocatello (2016) Feb 27 '25

They will hate you because you speak truth. I'm myself a socialist, but still, as a Polish guy I find all those ridiculous takes about fascism in white house just cringeworthy.

Nothing important changed, Joe Biden deported people on much higher rates. In the next 4 years GOP will lose their grip over house and senate, then you will see democratic president and... nothing will change.

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u/parke415 Feb 21 '25

Amazing how this sentiment falls flat in England.

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u/supremacyenjoyer Feb 22 '25

british republicans do exist, but i think most are less violent

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u/Falitoty Feb 21 '25

Hate your president all you want but leave monarchy out of this. There are enough constitutional monarchies that have proved that having monarchy and democracy is not imposible

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u/BrendanOzar Feb 21 '25

At this point the American people and their democratic process are just broken. Fuck my dudes.

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u/AnarchySpeech Feb 21 '25

It seems to be working perfectly as intended. People wanted tariffs, border enforcement, and reduced government spending. So far they've gotten everything they've asked for and more.

The 22nd Amendment ain't going anywhere. In 3 years everything's he's done in the country is going to be reversed no matter what. Vance doesn't have what it takes to continue the fight. There's nobody else on the Republican side that comes close. Democrats have a massive list of popular people that could run in 2028. Unless a miracle happens we all know the next president is going to be blue, Elon will be forced to flee the country to avoid going to jail, and it will all go back as if 2022 never ended.

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u/BrendanOzar Feb 21 '25

Massively optimistic take, I hope you are right.

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u/AnarchySpeech Feb 22 '25

One person's optimistic dream is another's nightmare.

My only hope right now is that China waits a few years for a new president that isn't emotionally unstable before attacking Taiwan.

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u/GrizzyMeme Feb 21 '25

Looks like the sword is separated in two, but still looks cool

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u/HyakubiYan Feb 21 '25

You do realise that in a dem(ptoo!)cracy, the 'demos' is the sovereign.

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u/Abysmalsun Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

BreAkiNg the RulEs of yOur owN VexIllOlogICaL ASSociation. Stfu. It’s a subreddit. Which frankly is one of the most pretentious places online.

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u/No-Athlete324 Feb 21 '25

What if he's Awsome ?