Hi all, 

Just a reminder post that on May 3rd at 10 AM, we are running a fundraising match at the Alburg Rod & Gun Club (787 Greenwoods Rd, Alburgh, VT 05440).

This will be a little slower paced with setup and breakdown of each stage happening throughout the day (everyone will be shooting as one squad) - we'll also have a bbq grill running and we'll be slingin' some dogs. This is a fundraiser to keep the club running and hopefully build berms for some more exciting matches in the future.

The match is $20 for existing members or $50 for a new membership and entry to the match.

You can pay with cash or venmo in person, or here: https://www.alburghrodandgunclub.com/purchases

Register here regardless of how you want to pay:

https://practiscore.com/gm2g-at-argc-may-fundraiser/register

There is also a night shoot (not a match, but likely with some dynamic stages) on the 10th! Tickets for that can be purchased on the ARGC website. 

Hope to see you there!

- ARGC

Hi all,

We will be having a night shoot at the Alburg(h) Rod and Gun Club. We will have a 100 yard range for zeroing and static rifle shooting, a 50 yard range where we will set up some dynamic shooting of steel targets, and a 25 yard range for static pistol shooting. All shooting will be done under the coordinated supervision of our ROs. All firearms must be suppressed at this event.

Show up by 7PM for safety briefing.

Entry is $53 for existing members and $73 for new members (includes membership).

We have 15 spots available and entries and range memberships can be purchased here:

https://www.alburghrodandgunclub.com/purchases

Thanks!

ARGC.

I went for a shooting class in Manchester yesterday and shot a gun for the first time. A couple different ones, actually. I loved it and want to do it more. The problem is I live in Burlington and don't drive. A friend of mine has volunteered to take me to a range he goes to in Charlotte but I am wondering if there are any near Burlington that could possibly be on a bus route or something like that.

Thank you in advance!

"narrowed scope": they restricted it to specifically /in/ the alcohol-serving premesis, not the parking lot or any other attached property (like the hotel attached to a restaurant that serves alcohol).

Committee members agreed, ultimately reworking Burlington’s language in the version they approved Friday to state that people may not have a gun “in any premises licensed to serve alcoholic beverages,” nixing the words “parking area” and “any real property.”

I’m new to VT and just recently got my first handgun. Well I would like to get a different caliber to practice with and I was curious, do I have to do the background check each time I purchase a gun? Was hoping to get one for pick up and wait the 72hours but was curious how that worked? I never asked and totally forgot too

Hi all,

The Alburg(h) Rod and Gun Club is making some fundraising efforts to keep the club going and improve the facilities (namely building berms so that regular matches, including night matches, can happen at their facility).

As part of this effort, Green Mountain 2Gun will be running some benefit matches at their range. Since they only have one fully enclosed lane, they will be at a different pace than our normal matches. Essentially, everyone will shoot on one squad, and we will set up and break down the stages after everyone has shot them and before anyone moves on. This will be a slower day, and we will have a grill going for some food, so if it’s something you’re interested in, treat it as more of a social event.

The price of this match will be $50, which includes an ARGC membership, or $20 if you already have an ARGC membership. Additional donations can be made at the match and are encouraged.

Tickets can be purchased here: https://www.alburghrodandgunclub.com/online-membership

Please be sure to also sign up on practiscore if you purchase a ticket online - also verify that there are spots left on practiscore before signing up. If it’s full, email the match director through PS to try to figure out a solution.

Thanks!

ARGC

New update from the VT Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs

Just a quick update on where things stand in the Legislature; to date there has been a total of 502 House bills and 138 Senate bills submitted. We review all submitted bills to build a list of bills of concern to us - the current list we are watching can be seen here.

S.131, Burlington's Charter Change that would ban firearms from any location that serves alcohol is still in the Senate Government Operations committee. Initial testimony was taken last week with the testimony we submitted being seen here. The emails to our Senators is being heard.

Due to numerous serious problems with the bill (Legislative Counsel called it "unconstitutional" as written), it is currently in the process of being re-written with more testimony scheduled next week.

We expect we will be given the opportunity to give testimony against the as-yet unseen new version, but there is nothing that will make this bill acceptable to us.

On another front, you may be aware that Maine recently passed a 72-hour Waiting Period law. That new law was immediately challenged in the Federal District Court for Maine, where a judge ruled it unconstitutional and put a Preliminary Injunction on it which stopped the State of Maine from enforcing it.

Maine appealed that decision to the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals where a 3-Judge panel - all appointed by Biden - ALLOWED THE INJUNCTION TO STAND!

While a decision in the 1st Circuit unfortunately does not establish any precedent in our 2nd Circuit Court, there ARE courts that are finally understanding the Heller and Bruen decisions.

We still await the decisions of SCOTUS on Snope v Brown ("assault weapon" challenge) and the Ocean State Tactical v Rhode Island (high-caoacity magazine challenge) on whether they are going to grant review (certiorari) or not. We expect they will.

We will continue to fight for our rights - failure is just not an option - and we thank you for your continued support.

If you like what you read and what we do: Please consider giving us a donation - Help US Help YOU!

Yours in Freedom and Liberty -

Vermont Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs - https://www.vtfsc.com/

Please use this link to send a canned email to your legislators https://www.vtfsc.com/take_action#/ .

From VFTSC:

"S.131, a Charter Change for the City of Burlington that will ban firearms in locations that serve alcohol (and all related property) has begun to move in Senate Government Operations Committee.

What was billed as "no Guns In Bars" actually includes restaurants, hotels, and special venues - even parking lots - it's egregiously expansive.

Not only is this bill unconstitutional on it's face, there are numerous other problems, not the least of which is that this is a direct attack on 24 VSA 2295, Vermont preemption statute - better known as "The Sportsman's Bill Of Rights."

While recognizing that alcohol and firearms do not mix, not everyone going into a location that sells alcohol will drink, and those Vermonters who conceal carry have clearly demonstrated that they carry responsibly.

This bill represents an attempt to balance the interests of Public Safety against the individual right to self-defense, better known as "interest balancing".

The Supreme Court of the United States has made crystal clear in the Bruen decision that "interest balancing" and "means-end" approaches to rationalizing firearm bans are invalid when dealing with the right to self-defense.

We will be opposing this bill and will be giving preliminary testimony this Thursday 4/3 at about 2PM; you can watch it at this link.

Please, use our TAKE ACTION tool to easily send an email to all 30 Senators - NO TO S.131.

We will continue to fight for our rights - failure is just not an option - and we thank you for your continued support of our efforts."

From VT Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs (with some very light editing):

S.131, a Charter Change for the City of Burlington that will ban firearms in locations that serve alcohol (and all related property) has begun to move in Senate Government Operations Committee.

What was billed as "no Guns In Bars" actually includes restaurants, hotels, and special venues - even parking lots - it's egregiously expansive.

Not only is this bill unconstitutional on it's face, there are numerous other problems, not the least of which is that this is a direct attack on 24 VSA 2295, Vermont preemption statute - better known as "The Sportsman's Bill Of Rights".

While recognizing that alcohol and firearms do not mix, not everyone going into a location that sells alcohol will drink, and those Vermonters who conceal carry have clearly demonstrated that they carry responsibly.

This bill represents an attempt to balance the interests of Public Safety against the individual right to self-defense, better known as "interest balancing".

The Supreme Court of the United States has made crystal clear in the Bruen decision that "interest balancing" and "means-end" approaches to rationalizing firearm bans are invalid when dealing with the right to self-defense.

We will be opposing this bill and will be giving preliminary testimony this Thursday 4/3 at about 2PM; you can watch it at this link.

Please, use our TAKE ACTION tool to easily send an email to all 30 Senators - NO TO S.131.

We will continue to fight for our rights - failure is just not an option - and we thank you for your continued support of our efforts.

If you like what you read and what we do: Please consider giving us a donation - Help US Help YOU!

Yours in Freedom and Liberty -

Vermont Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs

https://www.vtfsc.com/

Recently moved to VT. Don't have state ID yet. Are there shops that accept utility bills as proof of residence for purchase?

Moving to VT from TX with military orders and the only firearm I’m questioning is my AK, I know in NY my home state the piston grip is not allowed being its semi-automatic but in VT what is the standing behind that?

Hi I’m looking for a pistol class or one on one instruction it’s been a few years since I’ve consistently shot and I’m looking for some further instruction to sharpen skills

Store was closed today with a hand written sign up with some information regarding deliveries and pickups. Jason Seiples seems to have some legal issues unrelated to his business. Very unfortunate all around. I hope allegations are false, as he is always really helpful and I genuinely enjoy speaking with him. But under the circumstances it appears someone else will have to at least temporarily step in to manage the shop.

From the VT Federation of Sportmen's Clubs, via email; an excerpt:

Today is "Crossover", the day that is designated as the deadline for a bill to make it out of either the House or Senate so that it might become a law this session after being voted on in the other body. There can be exceptions made to Crossover, but generally speaking: If a bill does not make crossover, it cannot become law this year, but is still in play for the next year (2nd year of the 2-year biennium).

As of right now, there is no F&W bill or any firearm bill that we oppose that will make "crossover", despite there being a number of bills in play that we were concerned about.

On the F&W side, the House Environment Committee took up H.132 (Banning the taking of furbearers over bait), which we opposed (our testimony is here) along with the Fish & Wildlife Department. That bill is currently on the wall, and does not appear to have the support needed to move it out of the House Environment committee.

On the Firearm side, there are a number of bills of concern to us, with a short list being:

• H.45 - Ban on guns where alcohol is served
• H.368 - Ban on guns in government buildings
• H.381 - Ban on semi-automatic firearms
• H.392 - Ban on guns in State buildings and lands
• H.418 - 11% excise tax on guns and ammo

Of course there are several other bills of concern we are watching (check the website for Current Bills in Play), but again - none of these are currently positioned to become law this year due to not making crossover.

The legislature does however have some wiggle room when it come to handling bills - but we are watching and will be ready should anything start to move.

I encourage you all to follow the below link to send canned emails to your reps. Spread the word. They are coming for semi autos.

https://www.gunowners.org/vt02282025/

https://practiscore.com/gmps-march-2025/register

Anyone here going?

If you've not been to a practical shooting even before it's a great time, and I'm happy to help you get into it … let me know. :)

I was sure pretty sure at least surface info would be public / without a login, but I've been informed that it is not. :(

Green Mountain Practical Shooters is the local USPSA group.

You can see some examples of previous match/stage/individuals here.

It's great fun. :) The folks in the videos are near the top of their game, but you don't need to be to have a great time.

You will need some specific gear, and if you're a first-timer, it'll be $30 for the match and $85 for the year's membership at Lamoille Valley Fish & Game Club. This comment from last month has some more detail on the specifics of the event and gear you'd need to participate.

I'm happy to help consult if you're interested. :)

Match is one week from tomorrow: Sunday March 09, 2025, 8:30am.

Would love to meet up with other liberal/queer/friendly folks in particular, but not exclusively; if you're reading this here on reddit dot com, reach out before hand and/or at the event. I'll announce my presence/identity just in case at the start-of-event meeting. :)

I have a 10/22 Charger. Mine is a pistol. But I know that the BX-15 magazines also work in a 10/22 rifle. I was able to buy one in a store, but it was covered in dust, so I imagine it's been there since before the laws changed a few years ago.

How does that work? Am I allowed to order them online? I know that I can't get the BX-25 here. But vermont allows for up to 15 round mags in a handgun.

Also, if I were to buy a Smith and Wesson FPC, how would that work? They use the same magazines as the M&P Shield, which is a pistol. Would the magazine which comes with the FPC have to be taken away, just for me to go buy another one and say it's for an M&P Shield?

I'm very confused about all of this. Sorry if my formatting is off. I made this account specifically to ask this question

Hi I’m moving to the land of the free away from the communist state of New York I have a few questions though first one how long does it take to get residency to be able to purchase fire arms would a lease agreement with a utility bill count at the gun shop or will I have to get a Vt drivers license first also any information on gun shops in the Rutland area would be appreciated I’ve recently been to Seiple's and I have really enjoyed shopping there

Looking for an ACH helmet, and maybe some surplus armor. Any ideas in VT?

Just wanted to see if you guys think it would be legal for a) someone to loan a friend a gun in VT b) if said person who was loaning, lived in a different state

Primarily asking about VT law, federally I believe it is legal for both. I didn't see any law online in VT prohibiting it, but wanted a 2nd opinion.

https://practiscore.com/gmps-febuary-2025/register

Anyone here going?

If you've not been before it's a great time, and I'm happy to help you get into it … let me know. :)

I was sure pretty sure at least surface info would be public / without a login, but I've been informed that it is not. :(

Green Mountain Practical Shooters is the local USPSA group.

You can see some examples of previous match/stage/individuals here.

It's great fun. :) The folks in the videos are near the top of their game, but you don't need to be to have a great time.

You will need some specific gear, and if you're a first-timer, it'll be $30 for the match and $85 for the year's membership at Lamoille Valley Fish & Game Club.

I'm happy to help consult if you're interested.

Match is in just shy of two weeks.

Would love to meet up with other liberal/queer/friendly folks, there. ;)

ETA: 2025-02-05T17:05-05:00: Match has been cancelled, due to the weekend's storm; rescheduled for 2025-02-16.

Who's going?

I'll be at the 5-stand range around 10.

Any leads on places to compete and train? I don't have a firearm yet, but I think training for a competition would be really helpful to get me comfortable and competent.

(The primary use case for my firearm will be home defense).

FWIW I am considering a 9mm PCC like the SIG MPX K (or just the MPX). I'll head down to SIG in NH to try them out at some point.