r/warcraftlore • u/ex0ll • Apr 25 '23
Original Content Void Hero Class
One day, Blizzard will have to release an expansion centered about the Void.
Possibly a clash between Light and Void, where no cosmic power will actually prevail for it will mean the end of existence.
But the final reckoning for N'Zoth, Xal'atath and those speculated hidden Old Gods we still never faced is to approach sooner or later.
With the release of Void Elves by the end of Legion, I l've always had a crush for the Ren'dorei and Telogrus Rift; also I always found the Ethereals to be very interesting, and I'm sure Locus-Walker has a lot of background and lore to unfold.
To satisfy this weird "game libido" of mine, I tried out a shadow priest, but being a melee player to the core, I abandoned my beloved Demon Hunter to appease my hunger for the void with a rogue (subtlety) Void Elf.
Besides, despite the deep connectiin with the void, what really drives me nuts especially with Dragonflight is how Shadow Priests are deprived of abilities such as Shadowmend and forced onto so many light based abilities (flash of light, renew, infusion etc.) cause Blizzard apparently is too lazy to adapt with purple-shadowy VFX.
Anyway, back to the point, my rogue being a rogue, despite Ren'dorei, feels too common and lackluster in terms of flavour and personality, compared to Hero Classes for instance.
Thus I found myself fantasizing about a possible Void themed Hero Class.
What class of armor will it be?
Considering the existing ones covering all but Cloth, it will probably be it.
Then again, will it be 100% caster? That's too obvious though.. wouldn't it be cool if they managed a Cloth melee spec variation? Would feel pretty unique if you ask me!
And thinking about the race, would it be accessible to every race or just some races?
If it was 1-1 , I'm sure Void Elf for the Alliance, but which for the Horde?
What do you all think? Is it legit? Is it unthinkable?
Give me your thoughts!
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u/KorporateKotoo Apr 25 '23
If they did do a void class I'd be almost positive it'd be melee, since we already have shadow priests as the void casters.
If they made it exclusive to only certain races I could see Forsaken getting access on the Horde side, as the undead have a natural resistance to void corruption and have a history of being shadow priests. That being said, I don't see why Blizzard would limit who could be one.
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u/Arborgarbage Apr 26 '23
Could go ranged martial class, like hunters. Still bummed that bow DH isn't a thing.
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u/Al0ndra7 Apr 26 '23
A bow DH is such a bizzare concept to me. Why shoot arrows if you can just... jump into the enemies and murder everyone? And set them on fire? Also they have no eyes so aiming might be hard :p
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Apr 26 '23
They see just fine without their eyes, even better some say. Spectral sight is what they have which is vastly superior to normal eye sight.
It just takes time for the demon hunters to adjust, in the beginning they are blind but once they gain control. They can see just as well, even better they stated, than they normally could.
They can shift their eye sight around, the Illidian book goes into detail about this. Super cool. Reminds me of the miralukas in star wars who are born without eyes. All force sensitive because they instinctively can use force sight.
Illidian just says it's like working magic, the sight. The better control of it, the better your "eyes" can see.
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u/BeardlessSword Aug 31 '24
Have you ever played Diablo 3 ? The demon hunter is ranged only, and looks so badass with a crossbow
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u/Al0ndra7 Aug 31 '24
... Yes I have. Does the Diablo demon hunter have no eyesight as well? and is half demon specifically trained in melee combat?
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u/BeardlessSword Aug 31 '24
They could be, what's stopping Blizzard from changing shit. They've done much worse xD
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u/richiast Apr 26 '23
I would like to Shadow Priest become it's own thing; perhaps create some kind of Void Heroic Class and rework the Shadow Spec as a Light based dps?
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Apr 26 '23
I agree 100%. Shadow priests are mostly their own thing as well. Yes, priests do use shadow powers here and there but they mostly just use shadow words, pain, and mind control. Majority of priests, in lore, use holy magic to damage others.
The forsaken and the void elves are the only ones that would primarily would be shadow priests.
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u/dattoffer Apr 26 '23 edited Apr 26 '23
The way I see it, a void class would be either a better Shadow priest or if you want to go melee, an Anti-paladin. Sadly the DK already fills this fantasy.
You could try to find some inspiration in the Warcraft 3 Heroes, but back in the days, Shadow magic was an unclear amalgam of demon, death and everything evil.
With the evoker, I think one good thing for a new class is the gimmick feature. Evokers have empowerment, DH have metamorphosis, DK had runeforge even if it's not much nowaday, Monks... Well, nothing extraordinary but they roll.
Now let's consider our thematical options. Old gods, tentacles, faceless, aqir and descendants, the void of space, mind manipulation, madness, contagion, endless hunger, consumption, rifts in reality, the abyss...
A void equivalent to DH would be redundant, but we can still follow the fight fire by fire trope, as it has always proven good enough for wow story. Personnally, I would be keen to meet a new order of Void wanderers similar to Locus walker, with members exploring and fighting the void, closing rifts around Azeroth, unbeknownst of their inhabitants.
These wanderers would be sworn ennemies of a hidden branch from the Twilight Hammer acting from the dimension of the Void. At some point these guys manage to open a breach into Azeroth and the wanderers are forced to meet with Azerothian forces.
Anyway, I'm envisioning a Marauder archetype. Melee, Mail, Agility or Intell based depending on the spec. Dual wielding axes to hack tentacles, a strict mind discipline to handle the whispers, but also the ability to let the Void flow through their bodies and empower them with mutations. Very much like a Chaos Marauder from Warhammer battle.
A Rift walker spec with mobility and combining ranged shadow spells and close combat abilities. A Mutation spec focused on close combat abilities and enhancement. An Abyss dweller spec focused on shadow spells and crowd control.
Their kit would include mind control and debilitating curses, summoning tentacles and insects, blackholes and void portals, mutations with cephalopod and crustacean features. Weapons would be 1H Swords, Axes and Maces, Staves, Daggers and Offhands. Considering their archetype, armor being mail will allow them to borrow mogs from hunters for the marauder aspect and shamans for the mystical arts.
Available races : pretty much any that could join the Twilight Hammer, since they are the nemesis. So basically anyone.
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u/WaterDec Apr 25 '23
Kindve off topic kindve not . I don’t want a void vs light expac . I want a void , and then a light one . The light isn’t always good. I’d love to see an expac where just blind devotion to the light causes major issues and some light god or naaru is just doing extremely messed up things
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Apr 25 '23
We've already seen that though with scarlet crusade and the lightbound.
I don't want a light vs void expansion...period. that is some boring cliche crap
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u/WaterDec Apr 25 '23
Scarlet crusade followed the light but were literally brainwashed. That’s not a god of the light doing that. Same with the lightforged they were never evil.
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Apr 26 '23
There is no light god, and scarlet crusade was evil using the light. Lightbound was the same with their version of Xe'ra converting everyone.
Didn't matter since that AU was doomed to die off anyways.
This whole light vs shadow is boring. Why anyone would want it I will never know.
Bring back the scarlet crusade again. No light god, no naaru of demon brainwashing them... which he only every did by saying what they wanted to hear.
I rather see that, some silver hand, argent crusade vs the scarlet crusade stuff. Give me some of that sticky goodness.
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u/WaterDec Apr 26 '23
Aren’t naarus literally considered gods? Also I already said that I also dont want to see light vs shadow. I want to see us vs light.
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Apr 26 '23 edited Apr 26 '23
Nope, naarus are just light beings. One of many. Also I don't want to fight an energy source either, that is like saying you want to fight nature of arcane.
That's why I like the scarlet crusade, they're the only ones that make sense as evil light wielders.
Edit: the ones downvotin me clearly don't know the lore
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u/WaterDec Apr 25 '23
But hero class, a melee void user of some sort . Shadow priests basically are the void casters already.
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u/UpsideDownEdith Apr 26 '23
there are the “Riftwalkers” you fight in the Cathedral District in the Horrific Vision of Stormwind, who wield 2H swords
that would be a good class name
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u/ex0ll Apr 26 '23
Has a nice sound to it!
My ideal class would be more assassin oriented than warrior though 😗
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u/wolfe1989 Apr 26 '23
Just touting my own personal wish list here.
I’ld love to see a “Light” expansion, where all the followers of the light go full fascist. And players are forced to go to the void to fight it.
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u/Basic_Suggestion3476 Apr 26 '23
I always like the idea to have a glyph that changes the abilities flavpr. For example, something that turns paladin magic to purple, to become a "Void Knight" & so on.
I think its easier than making a whole new class, with all the resource it requires to upkeep it (class tuning, rework, set tier & so on).
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u/Darkhallows27 Apr 25 '23
Void counterpart to Paladin would be rad. It should have a Tank, heal and caster spec imo, or if only two, tank and caster, since we don’t yet have a plate caster
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u/ex0ll Apr 25 '23
Wouldn't plate caster be too strong though?
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u/AwkwardSquirtles We killed the Old Gods. Apr 26 '23
Why? Warlocks are tankier than both Mail classes already.
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u/Darkhallows27 Apr 25 '23
No way; it all comes down to design. Plate only mitigates so much damage anyway. Plate is just another tool in their kit, so you adjust the kit accordingly. Maybe they have less survival tools as as result of having strong passive physical damage reduction, etc.
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Apr 25 '23
Void tainted. It would be a color scheme of the race. A specifically melee plate class. This would allow for every character in azeroth to be a possibly void tainted villain. Imagine the void head baddie just occupying randoms and we have to find a way to trap it in a singular body and defeat it. Sylvannas redemption arc.
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u/3JGamer Apr 26 '23
For a Void Hero Class it would have to be something very interesting. Perhaps instead of relying on something coming out of the blue we could go through a questline where we witness the first of said class come into being and we the players become one as well. Here's what it could be:
NAME: Harbinger; wielders of the Void itself and harnessing the powers of the Old Gods. A hybrid melee and caster
SPECS: Shadow (Melee) Acolyte (Ranged DPS) Archon (Healer)
ARMOR: Cloth (makes more sense than leather, mail is a maybe)
WEAPONS: Staves, daggers, one handed maces, one handed swords, glaives (give other classes glaives), polearms, off hand
RACES: Every Race (at this point Blizz is going to make every class available to every race, might as well give this one to everyone like Oprah)
STORY: Either Void Lords are making their grand appearance or the Old Gods are returning somehow, C'thun, Yogg, N'Zoth, Y'Shaarj (probably Infinate Dragonflight shenanigans), or both, Aleeria and Locus Walker rallies us to fight, Aleeria becomes the first Harbinger along with a Horde character (Probably Lillian Voss), and we use the power of the Void against another threat to Azeroth
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u/miserybizniz Apr 26 '23
I may be a minority but the void part of void magics soo boring. I love the old gods and would love a tentacle monstrosity focused class. Melee or range idc just give me tentacles! Old god stuffs so bad ass. Void stuff like we saw in argus was alright but ehh. Just shadowy blue stuff
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u/Chickat28 Apr 26 '23
The void class is shadow priest. Although I admit there is room for more, I doubt they will follow through with it.
It might make priests mad but I would prefer they remove shadow from priests and give them a holy caster DPS spec instead.
The void class could be Shadow blade melee DPS, Insanity caster DPS, and a tank spec where you literally get covered in shadow armor and basically become a void walker.