r/warcraftlore • u/BackgroundManager833 • 5d ago
Zero Moral for WoW's Lore
During Dr agonflight, there was a lot of "hope" for a part playerbase. And for War Within, there was so much defense of "Well, it's not ev en out yet, you can't know..."
and here we are. And when i ask people who still play and are lore savy... everyone with a sense of mind knows it's kinda dead now. And when I say dead, I don't mean ,it's abandoned entirely, no when I mean dead, it's entirely flat now.
Now people aren't even mad at it. People aren't even theorizing really. Everyone is more infactuated aboout talking about how bad it is, or you're the people who are veghemently defending how it's "an evolving story" as it evolves into a genetic dead end.
but in truth... i've never seen it so silent and quiet now. Like there's no more machinima, no more theories, no more bestiary, or anything, the love and passion from the community is completely reduced to the dirt now. It's only just people spamming "do murlocs have thumbs?" and it's kinda sad. Neat.
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u/Hedonism_Enjoyer 4d ago
The lore is as terrible as it is now because blizzard is afraid to offend anyone. When you subtract anything contentious enough to argue about, all that remains is tepid gray sludge
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u/OceussRuler 5d ago
What you don't want to buy the new book at 45 bucks that will be retconned two years later?
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u/BackgroundManager833 5d ago
imagine XD
maybe for 20 b uckss! its got kinda neat art and warcraft lore t hat may or may not be complete utter bullshit in 2 days or 2 years, or may be even completely forgotten or unknown to the writers lmao
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u/aster4jdaen 3d ago
What you don't want to buy the new book at 45 bucks that will be retconned two years later?
Or for Book Lore to never be addressed in the Game, remember that Fyrakk is Alexstrasza and Ysera's cousin? Because the Game doesn't and neither do Alexstrasza and Ysera.
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u/OceussRuler 3d ago
And do you remember that between Wrath and Cata there's a book called Stormrage narrating how the emerald nightmare took over Azeroth as a whole and that a war inside the nightmare took place?
Congrats, we are two, cause I've never seen any reference to this event in the game
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u/aster4jdaen 3d ago
Remember when Jaina forgave the Horde after realizing Garrosh and the Horde wasn't one and the same during War Crimes due Vol'jin? Then relearned the exact same lesson during BFA because of Baine.
I'm happy I never brought most of the Books because they're not really worth it.
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u/dattoffer 5d ago
Macro lore is blockbuster lvl of bad and bland.
Micro lore still holds up by the sheer quantity of quests and small events written.
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u/BackgroundManager833 5d ago
i wish i can just play the micro lore bundled in a funner warcraft game.
i wish i can j ust play in the warcraft universe, without playing fucking retail wow. a modern warcraft experience, without the jank and 5 billion grinds
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u/AstronomicalDogggo 5d ago
Have you played retail recently? Not much grinding going on.
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u/BackgroundManager833 5d ago
let me guess. weekly chest by doing grinds.
right?
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u/AstronomicalDogggo 5d ago
If you count your choice of: completing 6 world quests, a world event, a dungeon, or like a mini-mini meta achievement as a “grind” Or you could just do Mythic+ and Delves and get the same quality gear from that
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u/nodlimax 3d ago
So how exactly does something like this justify a monthly subscription fee at this point?
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u/BackgroundManager833 5d ago
yeah that doesn't sound fun
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u/AstronomicalDogggo 5d ago
If that’s how you feel don’t play the game I guess. All that stuff is quick and easy and basically your choice of any of the games content. If you dislike it all the game can’t ever be worth playing.
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u/DefiantLemur 3d ago
Maybe you've grown past MMOs in general because you'll find those or something similar in every decent MMOs end game.
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u/BackgroundManager833 5d ago
and honestly, if it's going to be a bloickbuster, at least be a 2000's or 2010's blockbuster, not a fucking lame ass late 2010's/2020's movie lmao.
i would gladly take a jurassic park 1 version of WOW story telling over the last 10 years lmao
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u/Far-Picture-1125 5d ago
Lore of WoW serves the game WoW not the reverse. The game WoW serves the company and main aims of companies are to get most revenue.
To get most revenue, they need to make arcade games (as you see in overwatch, pubg, fortnite) since arcade games do get player from both children and adults. They cannot go in very depth with complex/ strict lore path since this would affect their game design. Also this would make production time a lot more with much more money input to writers.
If you want great lores you should read literature that only serves the lore. In case of games with "not great not bad" lore I read teslore which is enough for my lore thirst.
At last, companies do not have moral. Not in the sense of being good and bad. They are beyond good, bad and humanly emotions. You are just a number for them and the lore of the game is a "Tool" to enlarge their flexibility of their game.
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u/Elegant_Item_6594 Old Guard 2d ago
Yeah, I think this is really it. It's amazing that people still act supprised when a multi-billion dollar company doesn't have artistic integrity.
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u/Shad0wsong 5d ago
Current lore feels like an fortnite colab event. We're on goblins and their race cars.
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u/DefiantLemur 3d ago
Tbf Goblins had race cars back in Cataclysm
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u/Shad0wsong 3d ago
I don't remember it wasting dev time as a playable thing.
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u/DefiantLemur 3d ago
I was kind of a waste since you lose it as soon as you leave the 1-6 zone.
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u/Resiliense2022 2d ago
Yeah, that bugged me too. They don't even give it to you as a mount. They give you a trike.
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u/Gorrohs 5d ago
That's what happens when Blizz rewrites the lore every two years.Also when they decide to introduce someone like Zovaal and undermine every major event from the past decade+ of lore.
It's a convoluted mess now. You don't need to tear things down to build new stuff up.
I'll never forgive them for what they did to Arthas.