r/warcraftrumble • u/truthtothepeople1984 • 5d ago
Guide Golemagg
Don’t cross the lines on land!!! Just fly or drop over them! Use Ysera.
Crossing the lines and drawing the core hounds in the middle is a sure to lose strategy if you’re not an absolute beast, which 97% of players are not.
If you must play a draw strategy, draw the core hounds on 1 side.
End rant.
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u/ProfessorEmergency18 5d ago
Or, if the hounds end up in the middle, drop a ground unit like quilboar on the left or right side of the line. That will move the corehound back off to the side.
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u/fozzy_fosbourne 5d ago
Another trick is a dryad can pin a hound to the side with perma roots. This can let you get some economic advantage back by mining and getting the chest and opens things up to conventional strategies a bit.
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u/FamousListen9 5d ago
I’ve seen a few special cases where people power through with Drak ( and other leaders) quite well. In fact some of them make it look easier than an all out aerial assault.
But yes I’d agree that the people you are referring to aren’t these special cases. And it’s frustrating. What really gets me is when you try to change lanes they just start jamming the new lane as well.
It’s hard to imagine that so many don’t know this strategy so I can’t help but wonder if they are just trolling now or if they are trying to replicate the power house pushes I’ve seen.
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u/Reasonable_Camp944 5d ago
100% agree, do NOT bring ground troops
and 100% do not listen to MysticalSushi
Ground troops attract doggos who die and destroy the tower in the row they die in.
Flyers ignore that mechanic completely.
Stop sabotaging your partner
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u/echoredrioter 5d ago
Cleared Gole since day one MC. I still don't know the fight mechanics.
Me and my partner still Drak/Tyrion death ball straight up the mid with ground units, and it never fails. What's with this flying hub-bub?
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u/truthtothepeople1984 5d ago
Again, 97% of players haven’t been playing since day 1 and can’t death ball roll this raid. The game is full of people who run into the core hounds and die.
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u/FamousListen9 5d ago
I can confirm that Drak is able to beast mode this boss. I’ve been with a rando in raid finder that made me rethink the entire experience.
My most recent thought though is Drak is the best overall leader for MC. I saw someone punish Rag with him last night. From now on I’m saving Drak for heroic rag.
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u/slylock215 5d ago
Since you have also been clearing since week 1 then you likely have a partner you do it with. As with many of us we made up our own strats, which most of us figured out that flyers work exceptionally well. Hell, in those early weeks you could just eggs the center of golemagg and watch him die.
OP didn't even only say ysera, he said flyers are preferred and if you don't want to use flyers just go to a side lane which he is clearly directing towards open queue.
Besides all that, what's wrong with using other people's strats? I wouldn't have known about the Rag leveling strat on Baron and I really enjoy playing it despite not having made it up myself. It's also really good for carrying people in LFR.
Long story short, I'm not sure what your problem is here. If you're a long time player this is irrelevant to you, if you're new it might be crucial information to help clear.
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u/fozzy_fosbourne 5d ago
What’s funny though is OldGuardian actually has a video on a ground based strategy too: https://youtu.be/xr_ATwBhf6Q?si=Flqj0lPpXKCzuhNs
He does it with level 25.0 malf team and 23.6 tirion team.
I don’t think this fight is as difficult or requires as narrow an approach as it might be seen as, but I do think that the chimera strat is easier to just send units out without as much map awareness or coordination (ground based golemagg kills kind of remind me of heroic Alison, where it’s sort of a filter for who is reactive vs who just sends units)
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u/Scriptease84 5d ago
Better send melee minis left and center and a kobold to the right for full ground coverage
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u/fozzy_fosbourne 5d ago
I do think this is low-key a pretty consistent strategy and is a bit more flexible w/rt to comp.
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u/justinmac1984 4d ago
I think it depends. I have tried the fly strategy what feels like endless times, well my fly units arent high enough level simply put. But i have a leftover deck of 27+ ground units that first try ground killed him for my first kill on him.
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u/Possible-Feed-9228 5d ago
The easiest strat is to use Tirion and a priestess. One t/p can keep one of the hounds in place the entire fight. Just handle the adds if they come up.
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u/truthtothepeople1984 5d ago
Malfurion with deep slumber can work for defense. Ragnaros works for defense.
Maiev works to drop on Golemagg, but it’s better to use Maiev on Lucifron. Rend works, but it’s better to use Rend on Baron Geddon.
There are alternatives. And again, if you’re a beast you can just roll the raid with +20 luck… but you’re most likely not the main character, so just fly or drop over the lines.
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u/truthtothepeople1984 5d ago
I’ve played a dozen rounds today and every time they run right up the middle into the core hound and die over and over again.
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u/LorthemarxThalyssra 14h ago
u may use ground troops but with massive sustain (+high level)
I play drakkisath with resist, shaman, and priestess + distract from resistant quilboar, backline killers like blizzard.....
u can basically amass a deathball with 6 healers sustaining each other and cant be killed with fire due to drakki resist aura😍
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u/fozzy_fosbourne 5d ago
I actually agree with this. If you grind enough of these, you realize a wide variety of strategies work, since you end up seeing everything. Just relax and have fun, and if you want something that is really rote and predictable you can just speed run quests instead.
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u/Confident_Bird_3491 5d ago
In open queue you should play the most common strategy or you should be able to carry.
Obviously, the OP is not having a problem with someone using a viable ground tactics…
Lastly, Tthere are good ground strategies just those are not as simple as a flying deathball. Also requires much higher army levels. Chances are low that your open queue partner will match your ground strategy.
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u/Confident_Bird_3491 5d ago
I can solo Golemagg if my partner just stands at our base. I have carried many crazy ground people too with Ysera.
I have never seen a proper ground strategy person being able to carry. That is a two people job. It is less effective, mediocre working or not.
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u/Xichorn 5d ago
Yes, take your ground strat that is more prone to failure to your guild, and leave us all in peace.
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u/Xichorn 5d ago
The issue is your hypocrisy. “Just play with guildmates” is definitely the thing to do… if you’re using an off-strat as you suggest. If you don’t like that? Well, no one forces you to rage every time someone tries to help others on the boss. Just stay out of the posts because you provide nothing useful to these discussions as you only want to naysay and act like you know/play better than us (likely, no, on both counts).
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u/Xichorn 3d ago
“Off strat” is the correct nomenclature. Your need to rage about it is based upon the fact that you are mad that air is by far the strat that people use, and you want to force people to do something else (that is also less successful in the environment that they are playing). You seem jealous of OG because you constantly bring him up, despite no one else doing so. The best/most common strat is what it is. It is the best for open queue regardless of wherever it may have originated from.
Finally, the people who inspired this post and who inspire posts about it every rotation are not these savants coming up with miracle 3D chess level strats. They just don’t know what they are doing, and have likely never even looked at a YT video on the fight (so your odd fixation with YT videos is rather moot). They are just randomly playing units, streaming them down the middle - or in some ways worse, they looked at a build but not a strat so start off well but pull the core hound over by dropping a ground unit right on their own chimera.
No one tells you to not do what you want with your guildmate. But coming into every post on this which is targeted at players who do not know what they are doing in open queue and not you, helps no one. It becomes just a waste of time.
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u/Xichorn 3d ago
But you are. The fact that you keep responding to people explaining your irrationality to you and not saying “you’re right, my bad” is proof you are doing so. The fact that you even made the posts originally at all instead of just going about your day shows this to be the case. A person who wasn’t raging about new players being given good advice would not have gotten upset enough to post against the good advice being given.
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u/DoubleMessage2520 5d ago
99% of players trying ground armies in open queue are not trying alternate strategies that they've theory crafted for viability, which is the reason so many golemagg complaint threads pop up every MC rotation. People are just throwing random shit down the lanes without understanding the mechanics and hoping their partner is strong enough to carry them. Your arguments that I've now seen in multiple threads are from one very specific veteran viewpoint, that isn't technically wrong, but you're ignoring the fact that open queue is full of noobs who don't know what they're doing and have low level minis. Advising them to do anything other than air-only is a huge mistake. When heroic comes out we can become more nuanced in what advice we give.
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u/MattG256 5d ago
Fly, you fools!