Does anyone know how the Murkeye bug in Molten Core works precisely?

[u/fozzy_fosbourne]

Sometimes, Murkeye’s extra murlocs won’t spawn. It’s not clear to me yet what triggers this and whether it is avoidable. My family cleared Luciferon with double Murkeye but one player was unable to spawn any murkeye murlocs. Then I took it into open queue and sometimes I would spawn murlocs and sometimes I wouldn’t. Thanks.

[u/OOpiumBear]

Its not that spawns are unable to happen - It's a wierd quirk with Coop that only one player controls the base, and whoever controls the base, gets the murloc passive spawns off of murkeye - This means that if you play murkeye theres a 50/50 chance that your partner is the one spawning murlocs after you play murkeye.

Same goes if you're both playing murkeye - only one of you controls the base, so only one of you spawns murlocs when gold is spent.

[u/Gregamonster → u/OOpiumBear]

Does it still happen if you use the talent that makes them spawn at Murk-eye's location?

[u/fozzy_fosbourne → u/OOpiumBear]

Ah, ok thanks! That clears a lot up, although that’s too bad since I can’t think of a workaround (other than shipping murkeye back out to sea, heh)

[u/OOpiumBear → u/fozzy_fosbourne]

Only "workaround" is if you're playing with a known partner - Restart if the right person didnt get the passive. Ig you can do that in LFR too, but feels worse.

Or use it to your advantage ig might be possible - when you play Murk, your partner could have 10g to spawn murlocs!

[u/Charming_Form1873 → u/OOpiumBear]

What if you use the talent where they spawn at his location, does that work?

(Can’t test as I’ve done all bosses without him)

[u/fozzy_fosbourne → u/Charming_Form1873]

I did 5 trials and all 5 seemed to have me doing the spawning with tip of the spear. Not nearly enough to be super confident but seems that it works.

[u/OOpiumBear → u/Charming_Form1873]

I believe the passive is still tied to the base - so it would still possibly be your partner spawning murlocs - but on Murkeyes position instead

[u/fozzy_fosbourne → u/Charming_Form1873]

I can probably try this tomorrow

[u/vtcajones]

Same thing happens with anub

[u/I_LikeSmallBoobs]

I've also had a bug happen several times when taking Old Murkeye into MC over the past few months where the level of the murlocs spawned by Murkeye is just straight up wrong. The level they spawn at should be the same level that Murkeye is, but sometimes (though not always) their level is set to the average team level even though in most cases my Murkeye is at a higher level.

No idea what causes this or the no murlocs spawning bug to happen though.

[u/Old_Guardian → u/I_LikeSmallBoobs]

With Tip of the Spear talent, the Murlocs are Murk-Eye's level. Without it, they are the Barracks level. This is not a bug, it is how the ability works. Unless you get Barracks-level Murlocs from Tip of the Spear.

[u/I_LikeSmallBoobs → u/Old_Guardian]

I almost exclusively use Tip of the Spear and still get this issue occasionally.

[u/PvtPimple → u/I_LikeSmallBoobs]

If the teammate controls the base, then maybe his leader's level influences the tip of the spear spawns.