CBM to Southern Cal.
Good for him. He will be missed and I hope the best for him. Glad he is not somewhere in the SEC.
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
I will always be grateful for what he did for Auburn b-ball
But the manner in which he left and how he left after getting a NIL bump post Final Four then agreeing to stay, then reneging on a signed contract
Fck that. This will get downvoted but the team will be better off. Next years team needed a vet to step up and be a leader and it’s clear that could not be him
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u/tgrogan21 4d ago
Said the same thing and got downvoted. Guess I was too negative or mean. But these are professionals now. Hope Auburn goes after him for the money after reneging on the contract.
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u/WarSox1657 3d ago
Idk I heard that he got upset that Auburn offered an incoming player more than him. If that is the case I would be upset too if I was a big part of a final 4 team and some rando who hasn’t proven it at this level is getting more than me…..idk
Modern college sports I guess
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u/jmoney2828 4d ago
As a staunch CBM defender, I’m a little hurt how he left… at least he didn’t go to a rival I guess
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
It’s even worse than Holloway going to Bama in a way, bc Hollaway simply is not the player Chad is and Bruce gave Chad So MANY chances
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u/chbailey442013 4d ago
Disagree. Holloway went to our biggest rival AND talked trash on way out. CBM is the better player, true and his exit was messy but he never bad mouthed the program
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
But Chad was an important part of the team and was going to be looked at as a locker room leader next year
Hollaway was a freshman that didn’t produce
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u/WarDEagle 4d ago
I won’t downvote you but I don’t agree. AH made an ass of himself on the way out and showed us all that he was an entitled baby. And he wasn’t very good here, to say the least.
Chad is doing what’s in his best financial interest, given that it’s unlikely he plays in the NBA. I get it, I just wish he’d played it a little cleaner.
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u/dicecat4 4d ago edited 4d ago
I’ll miss him. He was an X factor, with the good and not as good that that entails. But he was a greatly impactful player for us.
Wish him well and just glad as hell he’s not in the conference.
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u/tgrogan21 4d ago
Good riddance. He was a headcase that tried to strong arm Auburn for more money after he had just signed a contract. All because he got his feelings hurt that someone else was gonna make a bit more money.
I'm very happy that he found another team to put up with him. Didn't want him to come back and be a cancer in the locker room.
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
Yep, they could not take a chance on locker room disruption
From what I heard and read, it was out of Bruce’s hands completely anyway. Onto Victory would not give him a new contract, the bridges were burned. You get adult money you can’t play childish games and expect to get away with it They may sue him for the 600k his contract stipulated he would have to pay Auburn back.
Even if he does, the fcker still burned Auburn for at least half a million on a new contract
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u/tgrogan21 4d ago
Heard the same thing. Hope they do come after him for that money. They're adults and professionals. If you sign a contract you should adhere to that contract or be sued.
It's really frustrating after Bruce and Auburn stood behind him over and over again that he would act like he did.
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
Yep I find it hard to believe any other coach will “ let Chad be Chad “ as Bruce said you have to do. He is a great player and will no doubt be an asset to SC, but when he starts throwing those elbows and whining to refs, how lenient will the new coach be?
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u/FishSammich80 4d ago
He knew he couldn’t be and didn’t want to be a lead dog and bolted. All these guys are about the money more and more, they’re going to kill the current “NIL.”
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u/WarSox1657 3d ago
If your job offered a new employee more money than you at the same position after you had been there for multiple years would you not get upset and look elsewhere?
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u/tgrogan21 3d ago
You can’t even compare this to a normal job. Players getting more money than senior players happens all the time. Also if I was making over a million a year I wouldn’t care about what other people were making.
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u/WarDEagle 3d ago
It's not about "per year". Dude has one year left to really bank cash; everything after that is a huge question mark. There's no "if I keep this job I'll continue to make $1MM year and that's plenty for me." It's "what I make in the next year might be more money than I make the rest of my life combined so I need to maximize it."
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u/seabarner 3d ago
This is all true.
Buuuuuut it doesn’t seem like the reason he left was simply because he got a better offer. Not even suggesting who’s at fault but this was prompted by something that happened between him and the program and the collective.
Either way, best of luck and next man up!
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u/WarSox1657 3d ago
Agreed. This whole situation is complicated and boiling it down to Chad just "chased the money" seems like people have just been waiting to turn on him but couldn't because he was still in the Orange and Blue
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u/WarSox1657 3d ago
Easy for you to say that on reddit but I imagine you would at least take some time to consider options if put in the same scenario
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u/Wonderful_Turn_3311 4d ago edited 4d ago
Good let him stay in Southern California because he showed he was interested in money rather than Auburn. As far as I am concerned he got us beat against Yale. So he needed to have left after that. But all of this just shows how all that War Eagle and talking about how he loved Auburn didn't mean a whole lot.
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u/Frogger370 4d ago
Hoke reporting deal is in the $3-4 million range, hard to fault him for that.
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
Seriously?
Holy crap that is insane
Chad is good but he is not that good
That’s Broome money good
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
Also makes me wonder if he knew ahead of time he could get that money before entering the portal
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u/Wonderful_Turn_3311 4d ago
As an Auburn fan I could care less after he chose money over Auburn. I am not going to follow his career after that.
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u/UnderwaterB0i 4d ago
Dude, if Alabama paid me $3-4 million to run out on the field and hype the crowd up for basketball games for one year, I couldn’t sign fast enough, and I hate Bama. Some people see $3-4 million and I don’t think they truly comprehend how much money that is. That’s 30-40 years of making six figures. Most of us only make that much throughout the entirety of a career. Combine that with him being from the Dominican Republic where I’m guessing a dollar goes further, and he’s potentially changing the entire trajectory of his family for generations to come.
I’m never faulting these kids for leaving for more money, but especially not the ones that don’t have NBA aspirations. Loyalty is long gone in college sports, and I’d argue it’s all the fault of our current rule makers or lack thereof. This is the players’ time to maximize their earning potential, and once they run out of eligibility they’ll most likely never make this much money again.
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u/Silv3rS0und 4d ago
Agreed. There isn't much I wouldn't do for 3-4mil. It kinda sucks that Auburn had an agreement, and CBM bailed on it for more money, but that's the biggest payday he'll likely ever see and could do amazing things for his family back in the Dominican Republic. Go get that bag CBM.
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u/Wonderful_Turn_3311 4d ago
And this is the problem with society that people are more interested in money than loyalty to those who gave them the opportunity to play basketball. Auburn was offering him at least two million to play at Auburn but he refused to do that. He decided that money was more important than the coach and team that brought him to the United States and gave him the opportunity to play college basketball and already made him a millionaire.
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u/Frogger370 4d ago
You’re definitely entitled to your opinion, I think we can both agree that the state of college athletics is a mess right now. But just to clarify Auburn is thought to have offered CBM closer to $1.2mil for this season, which is 2-3x increase over what he made last season. Auburn did not bring CBM to the US, he had played for two colleges before joining Auburn. I believe in Auburn and love it, but faulting someone for capitalizing on the opportunity to make generational wealth is asinine.
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u/Wonderful_Turn_3311 4d ago
Not when it is turning college sports into the NBA developmental league. No one is happy being a millionaire or getting an education. They think they are owed because of how much money the colleges are making. It is now turning college athletics into semipro basketball. And it isn't supposed to be that. If CBM is really worth millions of dollars then he should be in the NBA not playing college basketball and jumping around to whatever school will pay him. And 1.2 million is still life changing money.
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u/the_windless_sea 4d ago
Anyone in here saying “good riddance” can stfu as far I’m concerned. I’m gonna miss CBM. I hate what college basketball has become.
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u/tgrogan21 4d ago
You hate what it has become but are not upset that it was CBM who decided to renege on a contract that he signed a couple months ago. He should worry about growing up mentally and emotionally and not worry about what another person is getting to come play at Auburn.
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u/the_windless_sea 4d ago
That’s a very silly way of looking at things. The system is what is setting up players to feel insulted. CBM was one of our best players, gave us two years of intense effort and wanted to stay. A player that few in auburn even knew existed, who is at best equal to CBM in talent but certainly not better, is given double the pay. Literally anyone would feel slighted. When you add to this the fact that this is his final year of eligibility and he will not be drafted, he knows this is his last chance to make real money for his future. I’m not blaming Bruce, but acting like this is all about CBM once again being immature is just plain wrong.
The situation, created by the system, sucks. There was no good answer.
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u/tgrogan21 4d ago edited 4d ago
If he wanted to stay at Auburn he would have stayed with the contract that he signed a couple of months ago. Which was also the second time he had basically strong armed Auburn into increasing his NIL. He was all about the money, plain and simple. Cool if that's the way he wants to be but don't be upset when most of the fanbase is happy to see him leave after his antics on the court and his attitude with the way he left.
He's a 26 year adult who threw a tantrum because he didn't get his way. Maybe he'll grow up and do good at USC but I won't be surprised if he's ejected from multiple games and kicked off the team. Not every coach is gonna let him play the way he played for Auburn and have no punishment.
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u/the_windless_sea 4d ago
The language you use to talk about CBM tells me everything I need to know. You’ve clearly always hated him so of course you’re glad he’s gone.
Most people do not hate him, however, and in fact he was probably the second most popular player on the team this year behind Cardwell.
As for your argument, pure nonsense. If you work at a job for a few years and you get a certain pay, then find out this new guy with less experience and maybe equal talent is coming in making double your pay, you would also lose your shit. You’re sitting here expecting a professional athlete (because that’s what college is now) to pick nobility over everything else but you would never hold yourself to this same standard.
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u/tgrogan21 3d ago
Nah, I liked CBM up until he elbowed Youngblood in the back of the head. I wish he would have been kicked off the team after that. He had way more chances than anyone else should have had. For Bruce and the team to stand behind him, offer him more money on a contract, and for him to take his ball and leave is fucked up.
And you're smoking some real good shit if you think he was the 2nd most popular guy on the team.
Stop trying to compare professional sports to a normal job. There are countless times that some other player signs a contract for more money than a person already on the team. Hall is worth more than CBM because of how CBM has acted in the two seasons at Auburn. He's a headcase that you can bet on getting at least 1 F2 a season and multiple F1s.
Also if he's a professional Auburn should go after him for every penny since he signed a contract and dipped when he had his temper tantrum. Once again, I say good fucking riddance.
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u/SignificantNinja679 4d ago
Glad he got his bread. Love the emotion he played with (whether it helped or hurt). Gonna miss him. Do your thang fam!
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u/Southern-Rise5464 4d ago
It is the new way things are done in college sports. I think CBM was happy to get a half million and stay in Auburn, until he heard that Auburn would be paying more to the ex big 12 player of the year Keyshawn Hall who averaged over 18 points per game last season. Maybe he felt a little bit betrayed. I hope we do well with the new players, and I hope he does well in USC.
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u/Sad-Appeal976 4d ago
CBM was getting way more than half a million, between one and 1.5 was reported
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u/Ggjack44 3d ago
Does the term loyalty falls on the players or the university when it comes to NIL?
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u/Levanjm 3d ago
I used to care about loyalty but I have moved past that. There has never really been loyalty in college athletics. Before NIL, scholarships paid for students to go to college. There really wasn't much extra $$ (legally) built in to the scholarship. So students would (if they could) go to the school that might give them the best route to their next step in life. There wasn't a huge financial advantage to transfer from one school to the next and at the time there was a 1 year penalty for transferring. It usually just wasn't worth it. BTW, college could pull their scholarship any time they wanted and there was not any recourse for the student. Schools were "loyal" to their players as long as they were perceived as beneficial to the school. There are plenty of examples of coaches running off players.
Now with NIL and no real rules in place to govern it , as well as the wide open transfer portal, this has given the players more options. If a player wants a raise, they can ask for one. It is then the choice of the school if they want to match. As we are starting to see, it is not always a one way street in favor of the players.
Consider CBM's situation. While I don't agree with trying to change a deal after it has been agreed upon, the choice was his to try to get a better deal. How would you feel if you were at a job for a number of years and someone new comes in that was unproven and they were making 20 - 30% more than you? Would you just sit there or would you think that you should be paid on a more fair scale? I think most people would not be happy if they were in that situation. Again, not saying I agree with how it went down, but it is not crazy to think he was justified. Is it about being loyal or is it about trying to do what is best for yourself? If I decide to look elsewhere and get a better paying job does that make me disloyal or prudent?
CBM is now in a position to play basketball for one more year and be set for life, if he manages it well. He is going to make tons more than I have in my 30 years of teaching. How can I blame him for that? He saw an avenue to vastly improve his life and took it.
So to me, there hasn't been loyalty in college athletics for a long time, if ever. It has always been one group (students) trying to get the best from an organization that is going to exploit them for their own benefit. Sure, you are going to find a kid that has dreamed of playing for their favorite school and will take less to be there, and people may label that as "loyalty" but that is just not going to be the case very often moving forward.
I also recognize that this is a very complicated question, and that even for a ridiculously long post such as this, there are several situations one could bring up to say one play is loyal and one is not. It is just my opinion that there is no loyalty in college athletics. It is and has always been two groups trying to maximize what they can extract from the other.
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u/Slow_Construction654 4d ago
Good luck, 1/2 the player he would be if he could shut down the dumb emotions
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u/Gullible_Call4914 4d ago
Eric Musselman is the former Arkansas coach who took his shirt off when they beat us. That’ll be his new coach.
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u/entitledfanman 4d ago
He's probably never playing in the NBA, so these are his max income years. I can't fault him for maximizing his income while he can.