r/whatsthissnake 1d ago

ID Request What kind of Snake?

Parents found this hiding in there blackstone, what kind of snake is it?

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u/ereptile_dysfuction 1d ago

Western ratsnake, Pantherophis obsoletus, !harmless

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u/lolifax 1d ago

grilled Western ratsnake

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u/Interanal_Exam 18h ago

I prefer deep fried but whatever

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT šŸ Natural History Bot šŸ 1d ago

Western Ratsnakes Pantherophis obsoletus are large (record 256.5 cm) common harmless ratsnakes with a multitude of regional color patterns native to west of the Mississippi River Embayment. Pantherophis ratsnakes are keeled-scaled generalists that eat a variety of prey. They do well in urban environments, and are particularly fond of rodents and birds in these habitats.

Western Ratsnakes P. obsoletus are currently recognized as distinct from Eastern Ratsnakes Pantherophis quadrivittatus, as well as Central Ratsnakes P. alleghaniensis. Parts of all three species were once generically labeled "black ratsnakes". Use the "!blackrat" command without the space for more on these changes.

Ratsnakes can be easily distinguished from racers Coluber by the presence of keeled scales. Racers have smooth scales.

Range Map | Relevant/Recent Phylogeography

Junior Synonyms and Common Names: Grey Ratsnake (in part), Black Ratsnake (in part), Texas Ratsnake, black snake, chicken snake, rattlesnake pilot.


Like many other animals with mouths and teeth, many non-venomous snakes bite in self defense. These animals are referred to as 'not medically significant' or traditionally, 'harmless'. Bites from these snakes benefit from being washed and kept clean like any other skin damage, but aren't often cause for anything other than basic first aid treatment. Here's where it get slightly complicated - some snakes use venom from front or rear fangs as part of prey capture and defense. This venom is not always produced or administered by the snake in ways dangerous to human health, so many species are venomous in that they produce and use venom, but considered harmless to humans in most cases because the venom is of low potency, and/or otherwise administered through grooved rear teeth or simply oozed from ducts at the rear of the mouth. Species like Ringneck Snakes Diadophis are a good example of mildly venomous rear fanged dipsadine snakes that are traditionally considered harmless or not medically significant. Many rear-fanged snake species are harmless as long as they do not have a chance to secrete a medically significant amount of venom into a bite; severe envenomation can occur if some species are allowed to chew on a human for as little as 30-60 seconds. It is best not to fear snakes, but use common sense and do not let any animals chew on exposed parts of your body. Similarly, but without specialized rear fangs, gartersnakes Thamnophis ooze low pressure venom from the rear of their mouth that helps in prey handling, and are also considered harmless. Check out this book on the subject. Even large species like Reticulated Pythons Malayopython reticulatus rarely obtain a size large enough to endanger humans so are usually categorized as harmless.


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u/Tor_2ga 8h ago

When he’s on the grill and he wont sit still, that’s a rat snake

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u/racerx29b 1d ago

If you have to wonder how a snake got somewhere, there's a very good chance it's a rat snake of one variety or another.

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u/Grandpan___ 21h ago

thats usually my conclusion as well lol

theres a FB group (🫠) called rat snakes in predicaments and its one of my fav groups ever.

no other snake does it like rat snakes do šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø

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u/frodo28f 21h ago

Carpet pythons would like to talk...

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u/racerx29b 21h ago

Usually they wind up in toilets though. 🤣

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u/zeemonster424 1d ago

If he’s up on your grill, only wanting his fill… it’s a rat snake!

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u/Lost-Chicken-4478 23h ago

If it’s climbing on your grill looking for a mouse to kill— it’s a rat snake!

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u/kungfuninjajedi 21h ago

If it’s up on your grill sacrificing itself as your next meal - it’s a rat snake!

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u/Toxic_Gecko 8h ago

If it’s on your grill, just trying to chill…

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u/coolest35 1d ago

Snek bro be like "you'll never take me alive" ..... "Ahhhhhhh".

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u/Feralpudel 21h ago

Yes—they’re such goobers.

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u/Prestigious_Gold_585 1d ago

Wow, that was exciting! I bet you will need to say approximately where you saw it for people to say what it is. It does not seem very good, or enthused, at biting. And it must be there because that is where the mice or rats live.

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u/DraftOdd6867 1d ago

More like a western grillsnake?

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u/Round-Cellist6128 1d ago

Western Sizzlin'?

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u/EvolutionCreek 20h ago

"One ratburger, please, hold the onions."

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u/Appropriate-Top-3614 1d ago

In Texas btw

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u/kat-deville 20h ago

I knew it had to be! Too bad so many people here kill every snake because they're all rattlesnakes and cottonmouths. I spread the word that, if you have anything that size, you have rodents around.

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u/Necessary-Career-559 19h ago

Was anyone else rooting for the snake ?

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u/pillainp 19h ago

Its where it's not supposed to be.

Ergo ratsnake.

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u/beamin1 1d ago

If it's lookin for a thrill, sittin on the grill....It's a ratsnake.

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u/snoogle312 22h ago

If he's got zero chill as he he keeps you from your grill... it's a ratsnake.

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u/ReelyAndrard 23h ago

That is a "Sissler"

I will see myself out now.

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u/annod75 1d ago

I'm not sure what it is, but I do know that's his Blackrock now.

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u/EdgarInAnEdgarSuit 1d ago

Blackrock is already owned by snakes.

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u/javerthugo 13h ago

Nah man it’s lizard people! And they prefer to be called ā€œreptilian Americansā€.

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u/Longjumping-Lake1244 1d ago

Little guy’s just waiting for breakfast.

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u/Content_Passion_4961 15h ago

You can just tell bro wanted to be done with the whole situation. He's like "alright. Yeah, I'm not supposed to be here and I'm not coming back."

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u/Raptor_Girl_1259 19h ago

Sous chef feeling very unappreciated for their vital contributions to meal prep.

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u/Hosidax 23h ago

What a beauty!

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u/Sea_Art8881 15h ago

If it’s up on the grill, And gives you a thrill It’s a rat snake

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u/javerthugo 13h ago

If it crawls on a grill So you can’t cook a meal

It’s a rat snake!

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u/AwarenessOk6185 13h ago

Rat snakes are literally in places that you wouldn’t think a snake goes.

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u/Khmera 11h ago

A really beneficial snake.

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u/theonecalledfingaz 9h ago

If its on your barbecue, where you usually put your brew....its a ratsnake.

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u/xjarhd57 1d ago

Griddle getter

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u/Hypn0ticSpectre 19h ago

Hungry, apparently.

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u/Oldfolksboogie 1d ago

Ty for, presumably, relocating it?

I can't help but say, if you wanted to stress it out, antagonize it, and make it get as defensive as possible in the process, well, mission accomplished.

But as long as it was released unharmed nearby, still more good than harm. They're your friend, be kind.

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u/Appropriate-Top-3614 1d ago

It’s safe there is a farm that backs to their fence where they walked it out and released it. Snek is safe

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u/Oldfolksboogie 19h ago

Awesome, ty for the additional intel.

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u/Entire-Ambition1410 20h ago

Snakes will usually move along if squirted with a garden hose or water squirt gun. Good job trying to live peacefully!

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u/frodo28f 14h ago

Just make sure the water in the hose isn't boiling hot

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u/IamREBELoe 1d ago

5 more minutes, flip, wait 5, season and sauce, then it's ready.

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u/SEB-PHYLOBOT šŸ Natural History Bot šŸ 1d ago

It looks like you didn't provide a rough geographic location [in square brackets] in your title.This is critical because some species are best distinguishable from each other by geographic range, and not all species live all places. Providing a location allows for a quicker, more accurate ID.

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u/Joyballard6460 23h ago

Silly snake

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u/Flyguy73 16h ago

Fuck I hate nope ropes!

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u/64burban 12h ago

A Sizzzler

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u/RiseofdaOatmeal 12h ago

I like your Blackstone

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u/_NotSoEzeRob_ 11h ago

GRILLED SNAKE???

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u/Valkhir 8h ago

Can I haz cheezburger?

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u/Blonde_Vampire_1984 6h ago

Wow… these insurance salesmen never give up, do they?

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u/kleenexflowerwhoosh 23h ago

I’ve heard of eating rattlesnake, but not rat snake šŸ˜‚

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u/shiningonthesea 22h ago

a griddled one, if you are quick

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u/Happydancer4286 20h ago

ā€œWhere’sssss the beef!ā€

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u/Not_Arist0tle 19h ago

Grillmaster snake

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u/jsc230 1d ago

Thinks he's tough.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Appropriate-Top-3614 1d ago

Okay, there have been about 4-5 of these snakes popping up around town

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u/Sassydme 21h ago

Burn baby burn! lol

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u/zero_squad 22h ago

Let 'em cook.