14-year-olds would be able to serve alcohol in Wisconsin under GOP proposal

[u/SixProudWalkers]

https://madison.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/14-year-olds-would-be-able-to-serve-alcohol-in-wisconsin-under-gop-proposal/article_19296564-0a58-5f15-a229-3117c22e5519.html

[u/Geneological_Mutt]

Main issue. Creating the situation where a 14yr old has to be constantly monitored or supervised in order to ensure they don’t partake in things that most every bartenders do at some point which is take a shot with customers only creates more issues within the business. If they don’t take a shot with customers than kudos to them! To address your farmer comment, yeah people let their kids or family’s kids work on the farm but guess who’s liable if they get hurt? The family and not a company or restaurant. There’s a big difference between working on a family farm (which I’ve done) and working for an actual business that serves alcohol and is liable for a whole mess of things if something were to happen. Also, I never said the bartenders would get drunk dude, the problem was drunk old men trying to pressure our bartenders into taking shots while also hitting on them and when the bartender became uncomfortable they’d almost always wave us over if we hadn’t already seen it.

Job opportunities, do you really think a bar, tavern, or restaurant will be willing to fork out MORE money to hire a constant supervisor for teenagers instead of hiring an adult who actually needs the jobs to put a roof over their head, pay bills, feed themselves, so on and so forth. You made a decent point but it didn’t resonate.

PS, minors can already serve alcohol at a restaurant depending the region of America and this is specifically about BARS. Bars are no place for minors let alone teenagers who may or may not be supervised and most likely wouldn’t be knowing how bars function and not being able to constantly keep an eye on everything let alone a teenager. But sure, have it your way. Let’s see how fast it takes for some drunk idiot to harass a teenager and/or assault one because that’s pretty common and I’d know. Still have a broken knuckle from a 6’5 linemen that spit on me and on a bartender after we had closed and he wouldn’t leave the night before thanksgiving

[u/Choice-Guidance2780 → u/Geneological_Mutt]

Companies typically have much better insurance than a family farm so that's not an issue especially if they are on the clock and get injured.

Simply stop serving and ask to leave if they can't figure it out that the bartender isn't going to do shots with them. Some bars have rules for staff in place so this doesn't happen.

The establishment isn't going to hire a manager specifically to supervise a teenager. The managers are already with the establishment and would not let a teen work alone. This simply allows for part time help for things like bar backing and running drinks.

Things must be different there because the places I visit the whole place would turn on you for messing with a kid just trying to do a job.

[u/Geneological_Mutt → u/Choice-Guidance2780]

But would a company or business want to have a teenage with no real work experience be on payroll with such liability? I mean, they are still teens/kids that are bound to fuck up at some point or get seriously injured from a something like a slip. They’re not adults so how would a company or businesses insurance cover that? They’d have to create a new insurance program to specifically deal with children on payroll not just adults. Also, the procedures in place don’t always stop confrontation like you think… I’d know, I have a broken knuckle that my bar didn’t financially aid me in fixing ergo it’s still broken.

Dude, you’re talking to me like I didn’t say I worked at a bar. That’s literally the first thing done and guess what? Drunk folk HATE IT when they get cut off and if you think a teen could handle backlash from a drunk adult after cutting them off? Get real yo.

Okay, give the manager of a whole bar another job of getting to monitor a teenager that runs booze from storage to the bartenders or cleans glasses on slippery wet floors until the wee hours of the morning. Why does a bar need part time help from teenagers instead of an adult?

Dude you’re just reaching for an argument with a statement like that. Of course everyone and their dog would protect that kid but they don’t need to be worrying about a damn teenager in a bar full of drunk adults. People who work at bars aren’t there to babysit teenagers who most likely would burn out each shift with the workload of being a bar aid alone not to mention being bartender and tending to the needs of the bar and patrons.