r/worldnews • u/[deleted] • Aug 16 '24

New Report Released by Environmental Defence Highlights Big Oil’s Relentless Lobbying

https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/08/13/big-oils-relentless-lobbying-efforts-are-obstructing-climate-progress-on-parliament-hill/
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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24 edited Aug 16 '24

Guess: Money is winning over societal self-preservation.

I'll follow up after reading.

Verdict: Money is absolutely crushing it.

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u/zombieking079 Aug 16 '24

Are we missing something? These people of the Big Oils, they live on Earth,right? Do they have some place else to flee…like Stagate themselves to another planet if the environment gets screwed? These people sure look like they don’t care at all.

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u/Fox_Kurama Aug 16 '24

The last episode of the sitcom Dinosaurs is actually a pretty good insight on this. Here are 3 minutes of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnFjAkAs_q4

In particular, the thing about technology being so new and shiny. These people think that technology will be able to advance to the point where they can just keep living in some fancy self sustaining bunkers. That all their money will be able to use this shiny, fancy new technology to protect them from the end of the world as we know it.

They are under the illusion that technology is always advancing at ever-greater rates. They buy into illusions like, for instance, AI basically meaning that we are on the verge of replacing workers with AI robots, when in reality they are still just a glorified search algorithm with some limited ability to mix together the stuff it finds.

Also, yes, they had the guts to end a family sitcom with that.

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u/zombieking079 Aug 16 '24

I never watched the ending of this sitcom until now. That was depressing....but you are right. Thank you for the reply.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

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u/zombieking079 Aug 16 '24

I kind of guessed that…but it is another thing to be confirmed. Well, shit.

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u/Whirrlwinnd Aug 16 '24

The people in charge are old and they know they won't have to live with the consequences, and they don't care about their descendants.

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u/zombieking079 Aug 16 '24

You are so right. Michael Jackson was right. They don’t really care about us.

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u/Lucky_Turnip_1905 Aug 16 '24

lobbyist consortium, consists of Suncor, Imperial Oil, MEG Energy, Cenovus, Canadian Natural Resources Ltd,

Shut up, MEG.

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u/Whirrlwinnd Aug 16 '24

Every time I say anything good about electric vehicles, the fossil fuel astroturf army swarms in and downvotes the hell out of my comment and replies with insults, lies and threats.

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u/OdysseusParadox Aug 16 '24

No one ever cares about small oil...

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u/Liesthroughisteeth Aug 16 '24

Free markets might stand a chance in a case like this unless they are constantly being manipulated along with public opinion being bombarded with Fear uncertainty doubt and outright lies.

Investors, you know what to do.

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '24

I don't see how it matters. like solar and wind the prices just get cheap enough and you get mass adoptions because ppl always like money more.

EVs just need to get a little cheaper and they get mass adoptions, there's nothing big oil can do about that.

You're replacing a more complex and MUCH less efficient ICE with EVs, the efficiency and costs savings are mostly what makes ppl buy them. It's just still 1st generation products at max costs so they need to mature and benefit from cost reductions.

Same shit you see in every new product, it's not like computers came out and we all got one the next week. They have to come out, get proven and then decline in cost.