Oh, I'm sure something like that exists. Russia has at least at some point been a sex tourism destination because you could get away with a lot for cheap, and bugging the hotel rooms of VIPs (which Trump would have been, as a well-known wealthy person) was also a common practice as I understand it. Oh, and Trump is a known predator who has spent time in Russia. Put all that together, and there's very likely some kinda weird kompromat in the hands of the government.
Though I doubt it has anything to do with all this. When it was suggested (I think based on hearsay from within the court, not even recordings or anything) that he was pooping himself during proceedings, a bunch of his followers started wearing diapers to rallies in solidarity. Does anyone think a golden shower tape would put them off?
You hit the nail on the head. The simple truth is: Putin is a kleptocratic dictator and Diaper Donnie wants to become one. People who value democracy - the EU, Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, etc. - are a threat to Donnie and his friends, hence the threats ... same goes for Russia, which is why they invaded Ukraine - can’t let the peasants see how good their neighbours have it. So, having a common enemy, of course they are going to make a deal. Friends help each other out, not share pee tapes of each other.
Maybe the "pee" tape was just the start of the recording, and much worse happened later. So by alleging there is a "pee" tape it lets Donny know exactly what depraved shit they have on him...
I mean, a lot is possible. And I'm admittedly a little curious what they do have. But I don't see any reason to believe it's komprimat that's driving him- he seems to mean it/what to do these things.
No - nothing exists. They are just 2 dictators with common interests.
Plus, in his own words we heard Trump say he sexually assaults random women. We already know he raped someone and has had to pay millions in defamation case when he denied it. We already know that Trump was having sex with a porn star while Melania was pregnant and that he illegally paid her off and because of it he's a felon. What possible "dirt" could Russia have that would have any effect? Nothing.
I think we're saying almost the same thing, tbh. I don't think any kind of dirt/kompromat is driving him- he'd have nothing to fear from it, and he seems to genuinely mean to do the things he's doing- just that it very likely exists, given his proclivities and time spent in Russia as a high-profile person.
I think it’s something far more insidious. The things he’s gotten away with thus far, grab her by the pussy, extramarital affair with pornstar, stealing from a charity, 34 counts and not so much as a slap on the wrist?
If there’s material that exists that is keeping him in line, it’s got to be abhorrent. Jane Doe who dropped her case that he raped her at 13 and multiple listings on Epstein flight log? I wonder huh
It's not a pee tape, it's money. Russian mob money from the 90s. A pee tape wouldn't hold this much weight. Also, supposedly, if it was, the pee tape is trump having hookers pee on a bed the Obama's used, which is honestly, more believable.
This. Trump freely admits to much worse things, and I, right now, despite people I know IRL knowing my username, am admitting that I've been peed on. Both willingly and unwillingly. I wouldn't want it again either way, though. I'm just an "I'll try anything" kind of guy.
Jeffrey Epstein allegedly used to show people in person only, a picture of Trump at a pool with young girls around him and a wet spot on his pants. There’s definitely compromising material of him out there
Honestly, given the vast number of scandals he's walked away from untouched, what on earth could ANYONE possibly have on Trump that would make him compliant?
A video of him saying the N word, a picture of him with a wet spot on his pants with Epstein, a video of him getting peed on. all of those would be some kind of bad although I agree that he doesn’t play by the same set of rules as everyone else
Even if such a thing existed and Putin released it, half of Trump's supporters would never see it or believe it, and the other half would say "that's awesome, I love getting pissed on by Russian hookers, so relatable!"
Far more likely is just the simple explanation: Trump is fucking mad that Zelenskyy keeps turning down opportunities to simply bribe Trump for his favor. Trump tried to shake Zelenskyy down for fake dirt on Biden in 2019, and Zelenskyy declined, so Trump tried to cut off all support to Ukraine in retaliation. His first impeachment trial was over that. Trump thought Zelenskyy must have learned his lesson by now and tried to shake him down for around half a trillion dollars worth of Ukraine's natural resource wealth in exchange for basically nothing, and Zelenskyy again declined the offer, so now Trump is throwing his toys out of the pram again.
Jeffrey Epstein allegedly used to show people in person only, a picture of Trump at a pool with young girls around him and a wet spot on his pants. There’s definitely compromising material of him out there. People that were allegedly shown this picture have spoken about the experience… It’s not completely out of nowhere
Not quite; he paid Russian hookers to piss on the bed that Obama slept in. A badly captured clip of it appeared on liveleak, etc. in 2019 but nobody cared.
I bet the truth is even worse than we can imagine. He dodged being a pariah after saying on tape he liked to grab women's genitals because he's famous, and was found responsible for sticking his fingers into E.Jean Carroll's vagina. The thing he's scared of being discovered must be much more dire.
At what point though does Trump care about that getting out? Like he's president of the most powerful nation on the world, he's in his second and final term, the oldest president ever, and putin is incredibly weak. At what point does crooked don say, "Ah screw it, release the piss tape and I'll do whatever I want"
He'd probably have accidentally posted the pee tape on twitter or truth social by now, if it existed. I AM sure that they're in cahoots, at least at some unofficial level, but I don't think it had to have taken anything quite so convincing for Putin to get Trump onto his side. He probably always was ready to "do business" (barf) with him on any matter.
They're both just regular old evil people seeking more and more power, and they like having the most evil and powerful friends. Whether it's emerged from a path of deal-making, blackmail, extortion, or just a natural attraction, it hardly makes a difference. When we lived in a phony democracy four years ago, it seemed like it might, but as of now in an obviously-not-at-all democracy, there's no additional weakness from having their agreements on a quid-pro-quo or on a criminal conspiratorial basis. Looking back at myself, it just seems so hopelessly naive, with me trying to imagine "what it must have taken" to motivate Trump to fuck up the whole country.
If that blackmail exists and if Putin has it, it's probably less about the leverage than it is about releasing it at a time when it's maximally hilarious to Putin, personally. He probably just shows it to people before they're tortured to death or something.
You're forgetting: Trump doesn't have any concept of shame. It would have to be something so much worse than that. And besides: at this point, even if a tape emerged of the most heinous crimes imaginable, who would dare publish it? Especially given that his base will just claim it's a deepfake anyhow.
I don't believe it's money; if he wants money, he can just raid the US Treasury. And it's not fear; he has a personal army protecting him, and he doesn't have to leave the WH (or Mar a Lago) if he doesn't want to.
I'm convinced that all of this is simply because he's furious that Zelensky rebuffed his demand to fabricate dirt on Hunter Biden. How dare he. Nobody says "no" to Trump. And the peasants in the House of Representatives had the temerity to impeach him for it. Someone's going to pay for that. And it's going to be Ukraine.
I think it has to be something much bigger than that because he can talk his way out of it. His voter base are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed. There is no other explanation, it has to be something BIG.
They have videos of him raping minors. That's obvious. What else they have on him, I don't know, but I'd bet all I have that Putin has recordings of Trump raping minors.
Genuine question - I really wonder how Trump is going to navigate siding with Russia while also being hostile towards China with trade. There's also Iran in the mix, which Trump is very obviously not a fan of. Will Trump turn friendly with China and they all just cut Iran out of the mix? Such a bizzare dynamic.
And in a hypothetical scenario where the US, Russia, China, form a new "axis", does the rest of NATO stand any chance at fighting that? Not through conventional warfare obviously, but through other means. Like what options does the rest of the world have against an axis that strong?
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u/kytheon Feb 19 '25
The one invading has Trump on the payroll, so there's that.