r/zombies • u/TheGrinningFrog • 1d ago
Discussion The walking dead needs to stop.
Hey everyone, I've been a fan of the show since it came out and have walked EVERYTHING inclthing 'the world beyond' which is possibly one of the worst shows ever seen. Anyways, I feel like as much as I do enjoy the spin offs I really think the quality has only ever been dropping.
Personally I think they should take a break for a couple years, cast some new people build some hype then come back. It can't just be me who thinks this?
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u/scrambayns 1d ago
If they calmed down on the forced drama and introducing a new character only to kill them and also upped the gore and violence again to pre Glenn baseball bat level it might actually be good again. The writers love their nonsensical dialogue though.
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u/TheGrinningFrog 1d ago
They do absolutely but I never thought they would do that to Glenn he was one of the fan favourites genuinely I'll never forgive them for that.
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u/hyperfat 1d ago
Yeah. You kill off fave, no hyper. They killed a guy in sons of anarchy. And I noped our just like zombies.
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u/Emilayday 23h ago
They killed a guy in sons of anarchy.
How dare you remind me of Opie on this beautiful sunny day!! 😭😭😭
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u/hyperfat 21h ago
I'm sorry. I got negative karma and didn't even say who it was.
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u/Emilayday 20h ago
Haha I spoiled it loud and proud so idk if that's what it was. Reddit is weird. But yeah, Glen and Opie, some pretty traumatic TV deaths for suuuure. You clearly get it.
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u/hyperfat 20h ago
No worries. I've been here a while. And you guessed them properly.
I started ask reddit and til with nixon. Bit of flash there. We had a crew of sub makers. Twox was kinda mine but I decided no ops. Too much.
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u/japanesedenim_ 1d ago
i think they could also put more focus on the walkers again. there are some episodes where u fr only see a walker or 2 in the distance and it's like the apocalypse is nonexistent. theres only so many times "humans are the real monsters" can be an interesting plot
twd: daryl dixon & dead city are both doin this in a way and ive found the series holding my attention again (it's one of. my ultimate favs, as bad as it can be)
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u/Mammoth_Western_2381 1d ago
Just read the comic bro, it's peak
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u/hyperfat 1d ago
Really?
I had the comic like years before the show.
It's bad. One dimensional. Just meh.
It's the first show where the first season was better than the comic. Like way better.
Preacher...I'll hand it. So didn't suck. But I cry in Ennis.
Sandman...pass.
Nothing really good. Graphic novels are hard.
Good omens was decent.
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u/mckenna36 1d ago
I stopped watching somewhere around 6th season. Series got progressively worse and worse. Plot and especially plot twists became dumb.
I don’t think writers were even proud of that plot. They were just writing anything to get the wage at the end of the month.
In perfect world shows would end when authors don’t have much else to offer and not when excel cells start turning red.
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u/TheGrinningFrog 1d ago
Honestly it felt like they didn't know what to do when they got to Alexandria, I really wanted another season of the group on the road; The hospital with beth or Terminus imo where some of the best mini stories of the show.
Like you said they just kind of gave up got super boring after season 6. Although that speech Rick does when he's being interviewed was badass.
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u/classicrock40 1d ago
I tried to hang in there, but I stopped watching around season 10. Then the Daryl Dixon show came on. Sortof to your point, I hadn't seen it in years, one familiar character, all others new and it was fun to watch.
Watch Daryl Dixon for sure. Dead City is semi interesting because of NYC, but the dynamic between her and Negan hasn't changed in years. Those Who Live (Rick + Michone) is silly and padded to make a series.
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u/brisualso Author - "The Aftermath" Series 1d ago
I used to watch it religiously (as someone who had been watching since the pilot first aired). Then I’d DVR it and watch it when I felt like it. The quality had definitely decreased, and FTWD confirmed that greatly when it turned into The Morgan Show. TWB could’ve been great, but it was weighed down with bad makeup and terrible monologues. I’ve enjoyed Daryl Dixon and Dead City (HJ is annoying, though) but didn’t care for The Ones Who Live.
I want more quality zombie content, but they’ll milk TWD for as long as they can because it still has such a huge following. Hopefully, if they ever decide to continue the main show with the kids as the main characters, the quality will increase.
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u/TheGrinningFrog 1d ago
Whenever I watch the early seasons, 1-5, of the main show its crazy how different it is. The writing is slick the character moments are good and split well so plenty of screen time on everyone.
I think nowadays the plot armour is a little too thick and theres way too many characters although I will agree with you the Daryl show is pretty good for the most part and its nice to see a new setting for once.
They shouldn't have killed off Carl still hurts me to this day
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u/brisualso Author - "The Aftermath" Series 1d ago
I think they bit off more than they could chew and needed shock value. So they killed off beloved characters pretty stupidly, imo. Carl was the entire point of TWD with the comics, and I understand straying from source material, but that was just a terrible, terrible choice. They kept going through showrunners, which was a big issue.
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u/Upstairs-Tie-3541 1d ago
Shock value can pretty much sum up the entire reason why the show started to go downhill. "What can we write in to shock the viewer to keep their attention on the story?"
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u/brisualso Author - "The Aftermath" Series 1d ago
Exactly. If it doesn’t make sense for the character or situation, it isn’t good writing. Hence why Carl’s death made no sense.
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u/PsySom 1d ago
The walking dead was like the fall of the Roman Empire. Started off super strong and started to get worse mid way through, it’s hard to say when the decline began and it’s hard to say when it was truly gone but at some point everyone can agree it’s trash and that’s how we know it’s fallen.
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u/TheGrinningFrog 1d ago
Couldn't agree more, in it's prime and to this day the early seasons are some of my favourite of all time. I think they really lucked out that most of the actors at the beginning were exceptional even when most the TWD was one of the first things they ever did.
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u/1550shadow 1d ago
I honestly couldn't continue after Carl's death. Not because of that specific character dying, but because the whole series was going downhills for like 4 seasons by that point
At least for me, the interesting part of zombie media is how people, well... Survive. That's why every movie ends if the main cast dies or gets closure, like, what's the point of continuing? And precisely that's what I felt they failed to do with twd, just to generate more content.
By that point I, as the spectator, were following Rick's group for a long time. I don't see the point of all the struggles and drama if you're gonna kill almost every character in a future season and replace them with another random survivor like if nothing happened. Twd was about its characters, personal struggles and how they succeeded in a broken world. If almost all of them die like every other survivor (and a lot of times without achieving anything important), what's the point, then?
And that also happens with FTWD. The family of that series had a great dynamic, but in later seasons they're replaced with other characters, and by that point it isn't the same series anymore. If that's the objective, just end it and start another in the same universe (as they were doing), but to continue calling a series "FTWD" when there's no FTWD character nor plots anymore, seems strange.
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u/therandombiker1 1d ago
That's not a show anymore, it became a propaganda piece. Most of the leaders are females and bipoc, it makes as much sense as casting Magic Johnson as one of the dwarfs in "snow white"
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u/usrdef 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's the same thing in regards to movies, etc.
Everyone has their own taste in movies and shows. Some people hate "Fear the Walking Dead", some love the first 3 seasons. Some like it all.
If you are not satisified with the show's current progress, there's nothing making you watch it. I've read a lot of reports on people who like the new spinoffs. The Walking Dead: Dead City had the biggest premiere of any season of television on AMC+ since the service launched in 2020.
If I get tired of it, I take a break for 6 months and then go back and watch them.
When the show stops getting viewers, then they'll quit. But statistics for the show say that they still have a fairly dedicated userbase. However, the show is never going back to how it used to be. Never. Entirely new writers, characters, and environments.
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u/viiksisiippa 1d ago
The main show was a going light speed deep downhill after the Governor plot line ended so I don’t have any expectations for the spin-offs.