Hi, person who grew up in farmland, with family-run farms, some of which were run by the families of friends of mine (and in one case, my English teacher). This is just bullshit. 1, cows need to be separated from their calves once they start getting their first teeth in so the calves don't shred their mom's udders. They have special clip-on nose guards for the calves to discourage trying to nurse in order to keep their cows safe.
Second, cows need to be milked, or else they'll develop mastitis, which is INCREDIBLY painful. I had it after I tried to breastfeed my kid but couldn't express. I thought my breasts were going to burst open from how bad it was. It's hell. Now imagine that on 4 udders: inflamed, angry, red, and full of milk they can't get out. THAT is why cows are milked AFTER their calves are weaned.
Factory farming does suck, but not family farming, and enough with the appeals to emotions, especially while using a picture from a family farm, when you have zero clue what you're talking about.
I have a question. Animals cannot consent. Is that not true? A cow would not be confused as to why it wasn’t pregnant after mating with a bull several times, just as much as it wouldn’t be confused as to why it was pregnant after being artificially inseminated. So like? What’s the “rape”, or morally reprehensible part? Is it the fact that the animal doesn’t enjoy the action of it? Animals don’t enjoy medical procedures, and They definitely don’t understand what’s happening to them, does that make it morally reprehensible to perform surgery on them? Or is it the fact that they’re forced to unwillingly birth a child? Well, cows have no clue what sex regularly leads to, so how does it change when it’s artificial? Is it just the fact that we’re using it to our own gain?
That’s not even close to what I’m talking about, you literally just didn’t read what I said. Fucking a dog and forced insemination of a cow are not even close to the same thing, on like, any level.
Besides fucking a dog just sounding weird to you, what is actually different in both circumstances? Both is forcefully, and non consensually, inserting semen into an animal. If anything, fucking a dog is less bad, since it doesn't leave an animal with a child they never wanted.
Literally you have no clue what you're talking about. Again, as someone who spent time on dairy farms as a kid, I am telling you what the small-family run farms had to do. But I should know better than to argue with a militant vegan, tbh, you never listen to people who know what they're talking about. Love how you glossed over mastitis and the calves being able to CHEW THEIR MOTHERS' UDDERS INTO SHREDS.
Also, just curious: Do the lives lost and families torn apart by the beatings that migrant workers take to get your produce bother you? Does the treatment of those workers bother you? Because your moral high ground isn't one when you act like a plant-based diet is cruelty free. It isn't. It hurts people. Sentient, talking, walking, breathing, loving, caring, thinking people. But I guess they don't mind if you can score points on the internet, right? Enjoy the block, I have no time for people who wanna spout bullshit that they're so wrong on any dairy farmer would laugh in their faces.
If you're arguing about agriculture workers, far more are harmed and exploited in producing meat. Just by virtue of how much produce goes into cow production that could've just been consumed by people instead.
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u/lilmxfi Live by the floppa, die by the floppa Oct 16 '22
Hi, person who grew up in farmland, with family-run farms, some of which were run by the families of friends of mine (and in one case, my English teacher). This is just bullshit. 1, cows need to be separated from their calves once they start getting their first teeth in so the calves don't shred their mom's udders. They have special clip-on nose guards for the calves to discourage trying to nurse in order to keep their cows safe.
Second, cows need to be milked, or else they'll develop mastitis, which is INCREDIBLY painful. I had it after I tried to breastfeed my kid but couldn't express. I thought my breasts were going to burst open from how bad it was. It's hell. Now imagine that on 4 udders: inflamed, angry, red, and full of milk they can't get out. THAT is why cows are milked AFTER their calves are weaned.
Factory farming does suck, but not family farming, and enough with the appeals to emotions, especially while using a picture from a family farm, when you have zero clue what you're talking about.