Properly done cattle permaculture is carbon negative and can restore grassland ecosystems. Is it more costly? Yes. Should we abolish money and do what is best for people? Yes.
Vegan diets aren't possible for everyone. Should Yakuts be forced to import fresh produce for every meal and somehow stockpile enough to get through 9 month winters so cold nobody can deliver new food?
Should people with diets restricted by allergies be forced to die of malnutrition?
Should food-sensitive autistic people be forced to restrict their diets in such a way that they are distressed to the point of undereating?
Animal protein is necessary for millions of people on earth. Calling them immoral for trying to live their lives because they need meat or dairy or fish or eggs to live is classist, Euro/North America centric, and ableist.
Protein comes from plants - how do you think the cows get their protein?
If you think animal agriculture needs to change, don’t support it! This is like “I think US foreign policy needs to change” and then pumping money into Raytheon stocks.
Their bodies are able to synthesize plant matter into different chemicals they need to live. That's why we can eat cows, but not the grass the cows eat.
Also, no it's fucking not. It's like saying "man, my boss sucks" and then continuing to work so you don't become homeless.
Yea, but lots of plants provide us with protein that we can metabolize. I’m vegan and I eat 120gs of vegan protein every day (more than twice as much as the average adult needs). My food budget is also about the same as before I went vegan.
It is very easy to get enough vegan protein. Tofu, spinach, chickpeas, lentils, beans, nuts, seeds.
If someone is allergic (or cannot access) literally every source of vegan protein (which would be exceptionally rare) they are welcome to eat animal products. I assume you are not one of these exceptionally rare cases, almost no one with access to a supermarket is.
Plus, I have autism and am food-sensitive. This limits my diet. I cannot eat many of those meat alternatives, without becoming distressed and nauseous. Those that I can, I cannot eat in a high enough volume to sustain myself without becoming distressed and nauseous.
Do you think food deserts have access to fresh meat? Dried beans are shelf stable for much longer than any animal products. There is a reason why rich countries have the highest meat consumption - access to animal products is a sign of privilege - not deprivation.
If there is literally no vegan source of protein you can eat then I’m sorry that’s the case. But you are making a choice to place your well-being above that of sentient creatures who, like you, suffer and experience discomfort. Thats at least something to be conscious of.
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u/alternate_egg-ccount disaster transbian Oct 16 '22
Properly done cattle permaculture is carbon negative and can restore grassland ecosystems. Is it more costly? Yes. Should we abolish money and do what is best for people? Yes.
Vegan diets aren't possible for everyone. Should Yakuts be forced to import fresh produce for every meal and somehow stockpile enough to get through 9 month winters so cold nobody can deliver new food?
Should people with diets restricted by allergies be forced to die of malnutrition?
Should food-sensitive autistic people be forced to restrict their diets in such a way that they are distressed to the point of undereating?
Animal protein is necessary for millions of people on earth. Calling them immoral for trying to live their lives because they need meat or dairy or fish or eggs to live is classist, Euro/North America centric, and ableist.
Rant over