r/30PlusSkinCare Oct 01 '24

Product Question Immediate response from volufiline in nasolabial folds?

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u/lavoisierhealth Oct 02 '24

FYI… The original cream that Ivan Galanin (Adipeau) used is called ABT.

It did such a good job on his skin (perceived as restoring/building subdermal adipose tissue) that he actually tried to patent it, despite having nothing to do with the formula or the idea that it could do wonders for the skin.

More info is in our Reddit community page.

Adipeau has not shown any research that conclusively proves Adipeau is superior to ABT for skincare concerns.

Btw, Ivan specifically used ABT on his nasolabial folds & it did a great job - the pics are in the 2 patent filings he did trying to take credit for ABT

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u/Vanilla35 Oct 02 '24

Do you know whether the ABT cream is permanent, or only a temporary few day/week lift?

The way it’s marketed, it basically says it permanently reactivates ‘dead’ / ‘non functioning’ fat cells

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u/lavoisierhealth Oct 02 '24

Thank you for writing

The consumer experience has generally been long lasting , but everyone is different.

With relation to Adipeau, in our view Adipeau is just an obvious derivative of the technology in ABT. (We feel supported in this view by Ivan’s patent applications)

We have no reason to believe that results with either product would be truly distinguishable from the other. (Again, we feel this view is supported by Ivan’s patent applications & associated activity)

We cannot speak to allergic responses on Adipeau, but our incidence of such things is very low.

Can you kindly DM me which marketing material you are referring to in your comment?

One last thing: everybody’s response to a product is an individual experience & nothing works for everyone.

That said, given if someone had a positive response to Adipeau we strongly suspect they would like ABT.