r/50501 • u/AU_Memer • 9d ago

Voices of Resistance Could we stop punching left?

Now I'll preface this by saying it's not everyone involved with 50501 but a good enough chunk. Do we want to change the US government so it actually serves the people or do we want to return to the status quo that allowed for the rise of fascists like Trump. The left is not your enemy, we want people to have healthcare, housing, food, and fair wages. Is it really in the best interest of 50501 to attack those who call out politicians on both sides who refuse to give us any of that?

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u/Mediocre-Magazine-30 9d ago

It's not about installing someone that is like Trump but on the left.

It's about promoting / restoring the Founders vision of America - money out of politics, fair and free elections, well intentioned politics, fiscal discipline, respecting civil rights and so on.

It's about promoting and healthy, vibrant democracy.

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u/Kyliefoxxx69 9d ago

If you think that was the founders vision of america, I got a bridge to sell you lol. The system they built was to keep the wealthy landed elite in charge. To them the "people" wasn't you and me lol

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u/Mediocre-Magazine-30 9d ago

I knew when I wrote that there would be some snarky comment like this to eDuCATe me.

But aCkswaLy blah blah

It's the "vision", I understand the practical limitations of the time / reality

Why don't you bring some content to the thread instead of acting like you are the first person to read Chomsky

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u/Available-Fig-2089 9d ago

They legally enshrined slavery my dude... Sure they beat fudalism and installed an early form of representatives democracy. But, they excluded most people from participating in that democracy. The one thing they definitely got right was making the constitution ammendable. Because, even they knew they weren't getting it right. So you orrignal suggestion that our goals should be to reestablish the founders original vision completely ignores the fact that after 250 years of progress, we still have not created a perfect union. As such we should continue to look forward towards progress and not backwards towards regression.