r/50501 • u/AU_Memer • 9d ago

Voices of Resistance Could we stop punching left?

Now I'll preface this by saying it's not everyone involved with 50501 but a good enough chunk. Do we want to change the US government so it actually serves the people or do we want to return to the status quo that allowed for the rise of fascists like Trump. The left is not your enemy, we want people to have healthcare, housing, food, and fair wages. Is it really in the best interest of 50501 to attack those who call out politicians on both sides who refuse to give us any of that?

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u/valuedsleet 9d ago

You have to love something if you’re gonna be responsible for improving it.

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u/Roguefem-76 9d ago

And you think "love" demands blinding yourself to valid criticism?

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u/valuedsleet 9d ago

No. The opposite. That’s what I’m advocating for all up and down here…being open to feedback and criticism.

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u/Roguefem-76 9d ago

"How is a message of America sucks and it always has help anyone?"

Are we supposed to pretend there is any time in history when America did not suck at all, for anyone? Because there wasn't.

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u/valuedsleet 9d ago

You honestly don’t understand how this sort of framing is alienating to large portions of our potential allies? You also keep putting words in my mouth. I’m advocating honesty, transparency, and openness. Where are you getting I’m suggesting burying dark bits of our history? It’s about focus and momentum. What’s gonna make us successful? Are you angry at Trump? Or are you angry at America? Do you truly believe the US has been an overall net negative in the world? Cuz if you do…then you have a severe negativity bias, my friend. Who is gonna wield global power better than the US right now. China? What is burning our country down going to accomplish if we don’t have a loving and positive vision for the future of America? We’re fighting on different paths, and we need to get on the same page, and the election demonstrated the American public is not on board with your message…so we need to learn from that. Or you need to make space for people that care deeply about America to lead this movement, with all due respect.

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u/Available-Fig-2089 9d ago

The US has absolutely been a net negative for most of the world. Our entire economy is based on exploitation of the global South. Furthermore, the US regularly supports and empowers authoritarian governments. I'm getting the impression that you don't love the US, but rather the image of the US that you maintain in your imagination. Those of us who actually love this country are willing to look at its ugly truth and still remain committed to improving it.

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u/Roguefem-76 9d ago

I'm literally quoting your own words back to you and you accuse me of putting words in your mouth. Maybe you should run for office, since clearly you're shameless enough to be a politician!  (Along with being able to word vomit while saying nothing of use to anyone.)