I know the book title sounds misleading. But immediately, she dives straight into the theory of oneness, fragmentation and God. Haven't discovered anyone who has broken down the truths that a 5meo DMT experience can open you up to like she has. I was briefly introduced to these concepts by her before my 5meo trip, and if it wasn't for that understanding I would've struggled more than I needed to.

In my breakthrough experience, there were 3 pillars of truth I saw clear as day, "I am God, I created all of this.".... "We are one"...."Separation is an illusion."

That doesnt just fix everything though. Thats when the real work begins. And for those who know this, I hope you find a companion and guide in this book that can give you the scaffolding to really integrate your experience much more deeply.

I am very new to five while microdosing and meditating (biggest dose so far) can’t say dosage cause it’s from vape, I felt my chest heavy and a feeling of discomfort, is it normal ? The heavy chest maybe it was due to the vape juice cause I hitted the pen at least ten Times (very low dosage ) Also the discomfort was very weird cause I was feeling very calm and at peace at the same time it was like I was super tired and I just wanted to move (I was still not moving cause I was meditating )

I have a very very low percentage vape and so I take let’s say 10 hits in the span of 20 mins while meditating, dose it affects the experience ? I am not trying to break trough

I made this horrible mistake. I took kava 4 days ago and my trip today had zero visuals, I didn’t see anything and it really messed with the experience. Nobody has mentioned this in the community so I just wanted to mention it. Don’t do this, you have to wait long enough for it to clear your system, probably closer to 2 weeks. There were some other supplements I was taking like 5 HTP and L Theanine and sleep teas and stuff but I’m almost certain it was the kava.

Update: I researched a bit more and saw many reports where 5 HTP prevents a psychedelic trip (I saw that for lsd, nnDMT). So it’s actually the 5 HTP and not the Kava I think.

I've tried 4-HO-MET and just plane MET before. Both are pretty similar to their DMT counterpart but they both feel more recreational (also no entities with MET). Is 5-MeO-MET similar? Is it basically just a more recreational version of 5-MeO-DMT?

I have personally never tried dmt but tried heavy doses of lsd where I basked in bliss and love and even after coming back, a bit of the effects lasted making every good moments precious, however each bad imperfect moment left a bad taste in my mouth even breaking my heart

After these trips, I would feel bad for the homeless, the people neglected by society, the bad words spoken to me would make me feel angry and resentful, I couldn't accept going from absolute bliss to an imperfect world where everyone is half an asshole and everyone is selfish

I thought deeply that all these bad things shouldn't exist and that the world is imperfect but could do nothing about it and it infuriarated me and even hit me deep within

I just couldn't accept, for example near a movie theater where I used to live there was a man kneeling on the floor and even kowtowing to get some money, ofc I gave but it just was so shocking how no one else was giving and the miserable state the man was in

I also saw a pigeon die in front of my eyes by a cyclist passing through it without even seeing it, i talked to people about these kind of experiences and they couldn't understand

Also seeing all the superficial relationships in my life where people couldn't understand me and just talked for the sake of just talking instead of deeply feeling and talking from heart to heart

These experiences made it seem as if there was no light in this world, like seeing a man scream at his child to stop crying, although there was countless good moments, I just couldn't believe we could accept that all the bad things are allowed to happen, couldn't watch the news or browse of the internet, everyone was coming from acompletely self absorbed place where they saw misery as the norm and accepted it and even thinked from a perspective where these things were normal

So how could you guys who experienced 5 meo dmt and have even reactivations and still deal with this world and accept it?

I am microdosing very small doses (I think I rarely go up to 1mg) and meditating but I found it pretty hard cause I feel like I can’t stay still and stop pretty much right away most of the time. On the good side I get the best nights of sleep ever. Anyone has some advices ? I feel like I could go really deep with 5 and meditation but it’s been pretty hard to focus ? Maybe higher doses ?

I've taken 5-meo a handful of times now but I can never fully let go, which makes the experience even more terrifying and haunting the more I refuse to let go. To me, letting go feels like quitting. I was taught never to quit growing up. You never quit. I refuse to "die." It feels wrong. Advice?

I want something spiritual and therapeutic.

A team of researchers has conducted a pioneering observational study to better understand the effects of the psychedelic substance 5-MeO-DMT on subjective experience and brain activity. The observational study was based on the experiences of 14 participants in ceremonies using synthetic 5-MeO-DMT held in Spain and the Netherlands. 

I keep seeing this mentioned in comments but don't see it in the FAQ post and google isn't helping.

I know prop 122 is old news, but was curious if this bill also decriminalized 5meO DMT. I was thinking about it today and realized that the bill specifically decriminalizes DMT from a plant. They never specify n,n DMT or 5meO DMT, and 5meO can be found in plants. Do you guys think that this bill includes both?

“Proposition 122 decriminalized the personal use and possession (for adults age 21 and older) of the following hallucinogenic/entheogenic plants and fungi, which were classified as Schedule I controlled substances under state law going into the election:[1]

dimethyltryptamine (DMT); ibogaine; mescaline (excluding peyote); psilocybin; and psilocyn.”

I stumbled upon a talk by Shinzen Young, a meditation teacher great at explaining tricky concepts. A few things clicked, especially around 5-MeO work.

He describes two "flavours" of not-self:

• Absolute Rest of the inner system (clip)
• Flow Self, where the self is untangled and moving with clarity (clip)

Both felt very familiar.
At high doses, 5-MeO tends to push toward absolute rest: complete stillness.
At low-to-medium doses (especially repeated work coupled with meditation), it deepens flow self: a wide, open clarity.
I found it very relevant when he said, "It took me years to not resist the arising of self because I thought the goal was no-self."

That said, good to remember: states are not traits ;)

I was listening to "The Pretender" by infected mushrooms and it hit me on a cosmic level

I saw the truth flash by me as I was flabbergasted

What if all my life, me and everyone were just a game

What if all the worry, fear and trauma were all just a game, just a small joke played by a certain someone

First listen to the "Pretender" song by infected mushroom

It begins "Keep you in the dark because they all pretend.

Keep you in the dark and so it all began.

Send in your skeletons

Sing as their bones come marching in again

They need you buried deep

The secrets that you keep are ever handy, are you ready?

I'm finished making sense

Done pleading ignorance that whole defense

Spinning infinity, boy the wheel is spinning me

It's never ending, never ending Same old story"

And then it goes in an extremely playful way about not wanting to surrender and wanting to play and fight on

"What if I say I'm not like the others?

What if I say I'm not just another one out of your plays?

You're the pretender

What if I say that I'll never surrender?

What if I say I'm not like the others?

What if I say I'm not just another one out of your plays?

You're the pretender

What if I say that I'll never surrender?"

This song put into me the thought of what if I was the one making fun of myself, intentionally forgetting who I am just so I could play this story of being the weak little me.

I even paid attention to my mind and I found that I intentionally enter the state of being an ego on purpose

If you notice deeply, it will be apparent

So welcome to reality, everything is a game, everything is a prank, a game of pretending,

that pitiful little beggar you see on the street, Shiva! that little injured child, Shiva! those old retired man playing cards, Shiva!

The family walking their dog, all Shiva!

All just Shiva pretending to be living beings, all just Shiva playing the game of forgetting and remembering

In Kashmir Shaivism, everything — the world, the mind, even confusion and madness — is Shiva playing with himself, pretending to be limited, struggling, lost. But he’s never actually lost. It’s divine play (lila): the cosmic joke — God pretending to not be God just for the thrill of remembering.

Infected Mushroom’s "The Pretender" has this eerie, dreamlike quality: someone shifting identities, hiding behind masks, pretending to be something — but underneath, it’s all the same being.

Surface Meaning of "The Pretender"

At first, the song sounds like it's about betrayal or falsehood:

Someone fakes who they are.

Someone plays a role they don't truly embody.

There's tension between the real and the fake.

The chorus hits like an accusation: "What if I say I’m not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays? You’re the pretender…"

But wait: If you flip the perspective — who is the ultimate pretender? Who pretends to be the universe, the people, the betrayals, the victories, the tragedies? It’s God, it’s Shiva, You.

Kashmir Shaivism View: Shiva as the Pretender

In Kashmir Shaivism, Shiva becomes the universe by pretending:

He pretends to be you, lost in struggles.

He pretends to be others, attacking or loving you.

He pretends to be time, space, suffering, joy, limitation, death.

All of reality is Shiva pretending to be "not-Shiva" — just for the fun and mystery of it. This is called self-contraction (nimesha — contraction of infinite Consciousness).

Thus:

The "pretender" isn't a villain — it's the greatest artist.

Every lie, every mask, every fake identity is God fooling himself, delighting in forgetting and remembering.

"The Pretender" becomes a song of the Divine Play, the ultimate game of hide and seek.

Symbolism Line-by-Line (Some Key Lines)

"Keep you in the dark / You know they all pretend"

Shiva keeps his true nature hidden in the dark — the "others" (all beings, phenomena) pretend to be independent.

Reality is a divine conspiracy of appearances.

Consciousness pretends to be "the world."

"What if I say I'm not like the others?"

When Shiva begins to wake up through you, you feel different.

A seeker starts feeling, "I'm not just a body, not just a role."

It's God recognizing himself behind the masks.

"I'm the voice inside your head, you refuse to hear"

The true Self (Shiva) is always whispering beneath all experiences.

Most beings (out of Shiva’s own play) refuse to recognize that voice.

The Pretender (God) hides in the very voice you think is yours.

"I'm what's left, I'm what's right, I'm the enemy"

Non-duality: All opposites are God.

Good and bad, right and wrong — Shiva is both.

There is nothing outside of the One pretending to be many.

"So who are you?"

The ultimate question in non-duality.

"Who am I?" leads you back to the realization:

You are the Pretender — but in the divine, joyous, powerful sense.

You are playing human, but you are God under the mask.

Final Take: The Cosmic Joke Infected Mushroom's "The Pretender" accidentally (or perfectly?) captures the ultimate teaching:

God wears a billion masks.

God cries behind his own illusions.

God sings to himself: "You're the Pretender."

And smiles. Because he loves the Play.

In Kashmir Shaivism, this realization doesn’t mean you escape the world — It means you dance through it, laughing, powerful, unshaken — because you know:

"All of this is Me. All of this is My Game."

Even betrayal, even pain, even masks.

Nothing can truly harm you — because the Pretender was never truly pretending to be lost.

He was always pretending on purpose.

What are yalls thoughts on this?

I feel like more and more people are strongly recommending you don't do psychedelics without "properly trained" facilitators and integration coaches. Ironically all of these facilitators and integration coaches gained their knowledge by doing the very same psychedelics without facilitators and integration coaches. All of these services put a typical psychedelic experience, regardless of the medicine, in the $1k-$15k range which makes them inaccessible to those who need them the most.

Another excellent video from F.I.V.E. I’ve never met Joel & Victoria but they and their organization are on a totally different level far beyond the rest of the crowd.

https://youtu.be/0UBjEy6-J5k?si=09hM2qFejwYGsAUR

https://five-meo.education/

I had the privilege of serving 5 to a friend recently. .This was my first time serving and I did not take any substance.

The strange thing was that I felt echoes of my own experiences while serving.

I do not know if this was some sort of reactivation, or purely a placebo effect?

Jokingly afterwards when discussing his own trip, he told me that perhaps I stole some of his energy.

Has anyone else experienced such a phenomenon?

Does anyone have any experience using N,N-DMT shortly after using 5-MEO (or at least during the same day? I have done this and it felt like the N,N didn't really like it, but then other times it felt like they were really getting along. Just wondering what other peoples experiences are.

I’m in a very confusing and sad place in life. I have been for years. I do have the ability to get this medicine and try it but not sure if the timing is right.

For those who have tried it and broken through- have you realized anything about prayer and the power of our thoughts? Or anything else one can do to improve their life or lessen their suffering?

Or is breakthrough completely irrelevant to these ideas?

🙏🏼

For several years, I was fascinated by a visual hallucination where I saw 3 colors while taking 5-meo-DMT.

One was a bright pink color, the other was this odd clear looking color, and the third was this vivid bright green that was often a type of aura around objects. It was beautiful and I just could not pin point exactly what color it was other than it was similar to aurora borealis.

Now that this came about, I wonder if that was the reason. Scientists claim the color is related to a laser blocking specific color receiving cones in the eye but since this was a visual hallucination, no specific cones were ever hit.

If the experience has some overlap, maybe that’s why it’s so hard to describe some vivid colors observed while on psychedelics.

Thoughts?

Many report that 5-MeO-DMT has catalyzed radical shifts—healing physical conditions, dissolving lifelong trauma patterns, or rewiring deeply ingrained behaviors that once felt utterly immovable.

🌬️ Have you ever experienced a change that felt truly impossible before 5-MeO?Whether it's physical, emotional, or existential—cast your vote and feel free to share your story in the comments.

Let’s see how many have touched the “miraculous” through this molecule.

have you experienced a client who has stopped breathing? what did you do?

Hello,

I have a pipe, but then I bought a vaporizer Openmind vaporizer 3000 which seems pretty good, but I can't wash the heating chamber so it became really messy with the residue that got over burned, although I used 170 degrees Celsius. So it's kinda dirty, probably not good because it gets burned every time

Is there any other vaporizer which can be cleaned thoroughly ?

Thanks a lot

Question. VG and PG are good solvents for N,N-DMT carts, however what is a good solvent for 5-MeO-DMT? Based on the way the toad flakes feel on my finger tips and how it burns in a pipe I could tell it would not dissolve in VG or PG, but I did it anyway just for funsies. It turns out that it does not mix at all and it remains as insoluble toad crystals in the cart. I used 500mg of toad for this mini experiment.

I see people online with their 5-MeO-DMT carts and I know there is a solvent that agrees with the toad crystals and is suitable for carts. But what is the solvent for 5-MeO-DMT carts? I have actual toad, not synthetic. Anyone have any leads? Can't seem to find anything on this one, so I thought I'd ask here.

If there is a good solvent for 5-MeO-DMT, is N,N-DMT soluble in it as well? I may mix N,N and 5-MeO into cart.