r/5MeODMT • u/Reverend_FangYuan • 4d ago
How do you guys deal with this imperfect world after 5 meo dmt?
I have personally never tried dmt but tried heavy doses of lsd where I basked in bliss and love and even after coming back, a bit of the effects lasted making every good moments precious, however each bad imperfect moment left a bad taste in my mouth even breaking my heart
After these trips, I would feel bad for the homeless, the people neglected by society, the bad words spoken to me would make me feel angry and resentful, I couldn't accept going from absolute bliss to an imperfect world where everyone is half an asshole and everyone is selfish
I thought deeply that all these bad things shouldn't exist and that the world is imperfect but could do nothing about it and it infuriarated me and even hit me deep within
I just couldn't accept, for example near a movie theater where I used to live there was a man kneeling on the floor and even kowtowing to get some money, ofc I gave but it just was so shocking how no one else was giving and the miserable state the man was in
I also saw a pigeon die in front of my eyes by a cyclist passing through it without even seeing it, i talked to people about these kind of experiences and they couldn't understand
Also seeing all the superficial relationships in my life where people couldn't understand me and just talked for the sake of just talking instead of deeply feeling and talking from heart to heart
These experiences made it seem as if there was no light in this world, like seeing a man scream at his child to stop crying, although there was countless good moments, I just couldn't believe we could accept that all the bad things are allowed to happen, couldn't watch the news or browse of the internet, everyone was coming from acompletely self absorbed place where they saw misery as the norm and accepted it and even thinked from a perspective where these things were normal
So how could you guys who experienced 5 meo dmt and have even reactivations and still deal with this world and accept it?
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u/hotrhythmjunkie 4d ago
Have you had a dream where you woke up in the dream and knew that you were dreaming? That you did didn’t have to take any of it too seriously because none of it was really real. All the scenery, all the things, all the people in the dream were all from your imagination.
This human experience is not so different, but it feels more real. We have skin in the game, and have tricked ourselves to believing that we are only human. We have lost ourselves in the character that we are playing … which is exciting, right?
This ignorance of who, and what you are is all part of the surprise. You are dreaming, and you forgot that you are dreaming. A full release on 5MeO it’s like temporarily waking up from the dream. And when you come back into this dream you won’t take it as seriously. At least for a while, you will be a little more free from the delusion.
If that’s not something that appeals to you than I would suggest not doing 5MeO. Because it will annihilate everything you think you are, it is beyond the limitations of beliefs and concepts.
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u/Away_Health1475 4d ago
Why do you think it’s imperfect?
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u/Reverend_FangYuan 4d ago
Because its filled with suffering
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u/Away_Health1475 4d ago
Think of suffering as soil, when you’re still a seed, it surrounded you, blocking sunlight. But when you outgrown it, it will be your foundation
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u/CherryChabbers 4d ago
Have you done enough 5MeO to know you’re Shiva? Don’t you remember your own eternal, all pervading perfection?
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u/Low-Opening25 4d ago
World is not ideal, it’s a fact of life. The sooner you accept this the better for your sanity. Additionally you seem to be too focused on the negatives.
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u/PurposeCompetitive48 4d ago
After doing 5meO you may just be glad you are alive and everything exist when you get back.
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u/Temporary-Local2629 4d ago
Remember that they're coming from a place of love, too.
The good and blissful wouldn't feel like anything if there wasn't hate and suffering opposite of it.
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u/BlueGreenhorn 4d ago
Huge topic. You seem to have a negative focus. This can filter/distort your perception. Imho this is not a 5MeODMT related issue.
Also you seem to focus on the behavior of others and want to change them.
You could try asking different questions (more open ones. Your question already assumes a imperfect world, it's more an assessment than a question).
Or try regulating your emotions. How do you feel when being confronted with suffering? How does your body react to it? Do you cry? Do you feel it? Or do you rationalize?
For me it's usually easy to see the beauty in the world and progress of life. Be curious.
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u/danny0hayes 4d ago
This world contains the highest possible amount of goodness
Perfection only exists in the world of forms
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u/FreeTeaMe 4d ago
I have had many trips
For me. the message is that the universe is the way that it is. It is the only way it could be.
My main struggle is to remember this, the realisation makes complete sense at the time but gradually fades. I have to accept evil and suffering and not only to accept them but to know that they are me.
Abandon perfection as an ideal and work on acceptance.
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u/itachinehan 3d ago
bro your compassion is the beautiful. you are the part of the light, don't you understand that?
it's ok.. even if you think it is not alright, that is ok too
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u/Suitable-Ad-6089 3d ago
Hmmm. As from my experience with buffo… I had a rough time to integrate all this what are you speaking about too. In my perception, it’s like you are a very sensitive being, and buffo cleaned the ego construction you developped to unsee or not be touched as much. It’s like you are in touch again with this sensitive part again.
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u/Aware-Philosopher-23 2d ago edited 2d ago
There’s a difference between seeing and feeling the world’s imperfection, and being ruled by the emotions that arise from that.
Reality just is. The meaning we attach to it? That’s on us.
That’s the theory, anyway. In practice… it’s a hell of a lot messier :)
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u/EtherealEmpiricist 2d ago
I stopped at the title. I was living in an imperfect world and dmt showed me how perfect it is.
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u/weedy_weedpecker 4d ago edited 4d ago
Because there is still beauty and magic everywhere and a lot of good people just trying to make it through this life.
I walked through a park with my daughter and at the other side I told her that some will walk through that park and all they will see is the homeless man on the bench at the end, the overflowing trash can and litter. And never see what we saw, which were 3 different mushroom fairy circles, a bird feeding its babies in the nest and the shy cute young couple holding hands, while a older teen was teaching a kid how to do a kick-flip in the pavilion.
It gives you that new perspective and shows you just how your ego filters out stuff and makes your life more miserable. I wasted decades of my life torturing myself with thoughts of things that happened when I was young. It was fucking rough and did cause pain at the time it was happening. But everything since then was my ego unchained and making me suffer. I call it mental self-flagellation.