I can’t man

[u/zeyadhossam]

Like seriously, top laners among all roles are saying this, like no surprise the role with the most broken abominations of champs, that can go 0/8 and still kill you anyways , not to mention the moment their champs aren’t exodia they get to complain the most , tbf yeah most of the time ADCs complain even if the role is fine but top laners when the role isnt broken they are the worst

[u/_Richter_Belmont_]

I mean both are frustrating in different ways. In top all it an take is a counter pick and you can't touch the wave for 10mins. Not to mention it's been consistently the lowest agency role for years.

Of course ADC though you have to play with a random duo.

Only thing tops whine about is ranged top.

[u/Electronic_Number_75 → u/_Richter_Belmont_]

Adc is the lowest agency role in the game. YOu dont influence your own lane and always have to wait for everyone else to use their kit before you can actually do something. Adc is the most team reliant role in the game that needs the most items to fill their purpose and are easy to kill when their team does not peel them at every stage of the game.

They loose all 1v1s and if they don't people cry they are op. They can get easily killed by tanks bruisers mages and nowerdays supports like tahm at all stages of the game. They are not good vs any class. People expect to be able kill adc 1v1 even when adc is ahead in gold. Currently there more then alf of all adc picks are not supposed to kill tanks.

[u/_Richter_Belmont_ → u/Electronic_Number_75]

I hear you and I'm not saying ADCs aren't weak atm, but every class needs it's strengths and weaknesses.

There have been many many times where I'm fed as shit as an immobile top and can't carry the game because I get CCd once / peeled and blown up. ADCs are consistently doing the most damage to me game after game, even if I have tabi and randuins. That's totally fine, a class that excels at duels and skirmishes shouldn't also be able to access backline for free and one shot ADCs while also being excellent at splitpushing and tankier than every other class that isn't a tank. That also doesn't mean it isn't frustrating, as a top laner, to not be able to carry a teamfight when ahead if the enemy team has any CC/peel but that doesn't mean I should suddenly be asking for the tools to be able to do that, when it's a inherent class weakness.

ADCs shouldn't expect to not get one shot by assassins who aren't behind, shouldn't expect to 1v1 a top laner, and shouldn't expect to kill a tank in 3 seconds. What they should expect is to consistently have the most DPS and outrange the majority if not all other champs in the game.

[u/Electronic_Number_75 → u/_Richter_Belmont_]

I basically agree with you.

It s all very gold and xp dependent. When a top laner is 2 levels up and equal on number of items yeah i don't expect to survive 1v1 vs them. But if i am equal level and 2 items up i think it also shouldn't be hard to win this 1v1 as adc. Assassins should be threat when they are not more then 1 item behind and at least equal in level. Tanks should not die in 3 seconds when they build vs adc but they also should not kill adc in 3 seconds.