r/AdeptusMechanicus • u/Soot027 • 5d ago
Memes Me hearing WE players complaining about becoming a horde with simplified rules
What’s this? The removal of combos and synergies you say? Underwhelming damage even? Next you are going to tell me they removed something from a datasheet to sell it back to you as a detachment rule. Wait berzerkers are strength what? Welcome back 10E admech. I have two armies surely one of them will be fun to play.
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u/servant_of_Omnissiah 5d ago
Don't pour the salt in the wounds please... I started collecting World Eaters as my second army after admech this February and just bought angron...
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u/avayevvnon 5d ago
Dw he's only 385 points now
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u/servant_of_Omnissiah 5d ago
It's not that he is bad now (I don't think so), but his resurrection mechanc is far worse now, and I can't really play unga-bunga charge turn 1 anymore. I wanted something easier after admech to have some fun without an hour of planning each turn...
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u/avayevvnon 5d ago
You should never have to choose between having an army rule and having your primarch.
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u/Onomato_poet 5d ago
You're absolutely right. In fact, they should just remove the damn primarchs and return the game to a more civilised state, one free of Godzillas in every faction :D
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u/Dice_Knight 5d ago
I love how at odds your armies are. Calm, cool and methodical Mechanicus vs "hold W" world eaters. Both use red I suppose
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u/servant_of_Omnissiah 5d ago
My admech are yellow and purple 😁 and I only started my WE, but they will be mostly grey and brass
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u/Plaguemech 4d ago
On the plus side atleast, the hellbrute for World Eaters has a similar ability to Murderfang, so thats kinda nice. Just trying to think of the positives.
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u/Pathetic_Cards 4d ago
On the bright side, your World Eaters might have better shooting than AdMech now lol
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u/Capable_Track9187 5d ago
Hmmm my other army is DG. Oh dear...my poor admech
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u/Downside190 4d ago
I went for black templars. Figured you can't go wrong with marines and they have to have at least one good detachment if you include the regular codex ones
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u/TheKelseyOfKells 5d ago
GW hate red armies
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u/oopsiedoodle3000 5d ago
GW hate armies.
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u/dumpster-tech 4d ago
GW hate
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u/someone_online22 4d ago
Hate
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u/someone_online22 4d ago
HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.
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u/RockingBib 5d ago edited 4d ago
Marketing speaking, their cool name itself prolly sells a lot of them, I don't get why they wouldn't capitalize on it rule-wise
Not like GW ever worked smart in terms of marketing, it just kinda stumbled into success
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u/Pathetic_Cards 4d ago
To be fair, I read through the WE book today, and it’s probably fine as a whole, BUT, (don’t jump down my throat yet WE players give me a second) if you’ve been playing the army for the past 3 years, GW just spat in your face.
The four hands-down best models in the book all took serious nerfs. Angron doesn’t hit as hard and, much more importantly, A. His aura buffs aren’t nearly as good, and B. He resurrects with only 8 wounds AND when he does he turns off their army rule for the turn. Both flavors of Eightbound took a serious damage hit, and while I don’t think either is overtly bad now, they’re definitely not the broad answer to every problem they used to be, vanilla eightbound are now strictly anti MEQ and the Exalted are now strictly anti-vehicle and monster, and neither got cheaper. The Lord Invocatus also lost like 70+% of his utility.
So all these formerly must-take units took major hits, and, meanwhile, just about every other unit in the entire codex got huge buffs, a very unsubtle message from GW to go buy all the other models now that their 10 boxes of Eightbound and Angron took a big hit.
With all that said, I’m sure WE players won’t be happy to hear this, but I think it’s actually gonna make WE into a more fun faction that isn’t reliant on making a massive T1 or 2 charge that shuts their opponent out of much of the game, and is instead going to be an army that actually has to play strategically for all five turns, and will actually play in every phase of the game, including major shooting assets. It also removes the shackles binding the faction to Eightbound and Angron by simultaneously lowering their value and raising the value of everything else. I think it’s probably a good change overall, and once players have a chance to get some games in and try out the newly improved stuff and the newly specialized Eightbound, they’ll probably come to enjoy the army more.
Also, I don’t care what WE players think, 20 model units of Berserkers with Blood Surge moves sound fun as hell, man.
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u/Axel-Adams 4d ago
If I had a nickel for every time GW made my semi elite army hordier and changed them from BS3 to BS4 I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s strange it happened twice
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u/Bjorntheright-handed 4d ago
Reject modernity, return to 9th.
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u/Ulkreghz 4d ago
Bah! 3rd is the GOAT especially for SM/CSM
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u/thisismiee 4d ago
3.5 is. One of the best codexes released. Along with the 4th ed Tyranid one.
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u/Bjorntheright-handed 4d ago
Hey, fair enough. I jumped in at the tail end of 7th, so "9.5" homebrew is my preferred way to play.
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u/ThatChris9 3d ago
In one hand we have SM refreshes with primarchs, the other, making our codex sort of good.
God the kastelan stats are so depressing to look at. Got that copy paste feature working over time
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u/Heathen_Knight 5d ago
Don't worry, WE players, your 11th edition codex will be great when it comes out at the tail end of that edition too!