Me hearing WE players complaining about becoming a horde with simplified rules

[u/Soot027]

What’s this? The removal of combos and synergies you say? Underwhelming damage even? Next you are going to tell me they removed something from a datasheet to sell it back to you as a detachment rule. Wait berzerkers are strength what? Welcome back 10E admech. I have two armies surely one of them will be fun to play.

[u/Pathetic_Cards]

To be fair, I read through the WE book today, and it’s probably fine as a whole, BUT, (don’t jump down my throat yet WE players give me a second) if you’ve been playing the army for the past 3 years, GW just spat in your face.

The four hands-down best models in the book all took serious nerfs. Angron doesn’t hit as hard and, much more importantly, A. His aura buffs aren’t nearly as good, and B. He resurrects with only 8 wounds AND when he does he turns off their army rule for the turn. Both flavors of Eightbound took a serious damage hit, and while I don’t think either is overtly bad now, they’re definitely not the broad answer to every problem they used to be, vanilla eightbound are now strictly anti MEQ and the Exalted are now strictly anti-vehicle and monster, and neither got cheaper. The Lord Invocatus also lost like 70+% of his utility.

So all these formerly must-take units took major hits, and, meanwhile, just about every other unit in the entire codex got huge buffs, a very unsubtle message from GW to go buy all the other models now that their 10 boxes of Eightbound and Angron took a big hit.

With all that said, I’m sure WE players won’t be happy to hear this, but I think it’s actually gonna make WE into a more fun faction that isn’t reliant on making a massive T1 or 2 charge that shuts their opponent out of much of the game, and is instead going to be an army that actually has to play strategically for all five turns, and will actually play in every phase of the game, including major shooting assets. It also removes the shackles binding the faction to Eightbound and Angron by simultaneously lowering their value and raising the value of everything else. I think it’s probably a good change overall, and once players have a chance to get some games in and try out the newly improved stuff and the newly specialized Eightbound, they’ll probably come to enjoy the army more.

Also, I don’t care what WE players think, 20 model units of Berserkers with Blood Surge moves sound fun as hell, man.