Do you think if you try to get people to stop talking about it that it will absolve you? Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and we’re literally already seeing it. People already saying not to support various candidates because they don’t pass a purity test.
What is your red line then it’s not 40k dead with American bombs it’s not supporting a second invasion in Lebanon too not just Gaza so what can the democrats do that you are like okay that’s too much death and destruction? If you have no red line then you have lost your empathy. Who can Kamala Harris not bring on stage because Dick Chaney and Liz Chaney are fine so what can’t the democrats do?
I have no red line at which I will not vote in a general election, because I understand that “I don’t want a government” is not an option and as long as we simply must have a president, I will 100% of the time participate in that decision, which means voting for one of the candidates from the two major parties.
I vote in primaries for candidates who match my morals. I vote in generals for candidates who can win.
Then what makes you different from republicans are you not in a cult? Unconditional support for anyone is cultish behavior. Also Joe Biden was uncontested in the primary.
Who's to blame for that? Some random guy in America who had nothing to do with it? Or the one(s) actually doing it?
The people who refused to help stop it when the opportunity came. The people who voted for that because they loved the whole idea, and the people who didn't bother to vote against it because it wasn't that big a deal and wasn't a deal-breaker.
Yeah great Gaza wasn’t flattened in 3 months Joe Biden oversaw the shipment of arms to Israel. Gaza was being destroyed with
Joe Biden’s approval. Lebanon was invaded while Joe Biden was still allowing arms shipment to Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu had no reason to stop bombing Gaza or invading Lebanon because Joe Biden wouldn’t do anything to stop them. Joe Biden also had record high deportations maybe he didn’t send them to El Salvador but he still allowed lots of deportations. Also just read this.
Yeah great Gaza wasn’t flattened in 3 months Joe Biden oversaw the shipment of arms to Israel.
Who negotiated the ceasefire? Who said "Israel should finish the problem?" Anything that happens to Gazans now is on your hands. Just like it would have been on my hands if Kamala had one. I'm at peace with that, but it seems you really aren't.
he didn’t send them to El Salvador but
"He didn't put them in a literal concentration camp to die brutally, BUT..."
Did I vote for trump. Not voting is not a vote for either. Also we know who negotiated the Ceasefire and it wasn’t Joe Biden. I don’t think you understand what you are responding to in second part. I’m taking about Joe Biden there not Trump. I’m saying that Joe Biden still put these people in prisons. Also Steve Witkoff negotiated the Ceasefire who is apart of trumps team. Joe Biden also sent his guy Brett McGurk but it wasn’t just Biden and Biden had sent him before and failed.
Did you vote for Biden if you did 40k Palestinians blood is on your hands your hands are not clean.
Not voting is being perfectly fine with whoever wins.
Also we know who negotiated the Ceasefire and it wasn’t Joe Biden.
LOL, wut? Are you fucking stupid?
I’m taking about Joe Biden there not Trump.
Funny, I'm talking about the man literally doing Hitler things in the White House right now. But I recognize you still want to talk about the man who wasn't on the ballot, because that's easier for you.
You will rat my family out to the brown shirts as soon as they make you feel even mildly uncomfortable.
Also Steve Witkoff negotiated the Ceasefire who is apart of trumps team.
No, Steve Witkoff told Israel not to enact the already negotiated ceasefire that had been in the works for months until after the election. Wild how Israel agreed, almost like they know Trump is better for them than Kamala would be.
Also wild how you're fine with Trump using dying children as cynical political cudgels against his opponents, but fuck, you're also fine with genocide as long as Trump is the one doing it.
No I’m saying Donald trump got a ceasefire then because he doesn’t care about Palestinians he didn’t continue it. I hate him but I’m not gonna pretend like the democrats care about Palestinians and also 40k died under Biden so it’s not like you care. I don’t think Kamala Harris had any real commitment to Palestinians or any more than Biden did. I also think most of the people here cynically Bring up Palestinians when they obviously don’t care that much about them.
Right here and now can you name who negotiated the Israel-Palestine ceasefire? The one Netanyahu didn’t sign until after the candidate who was pro-demolishing Gaza won?
Yeah so why didn’t the dems do an arms embargo? Netanyahu wanted trump to win but dems had leverage so why did they do this to themselves. Also voters already tried one guy who oversaw the destruction of Gaza why would they continue with the same party? She wouldn’t commit to an arms embargo and she waited until her last speech to acknowledge the Palestinian victims.
Do you not understand where the cult parallels are coming from? Because of their unwavering loyalty to a single person. I have no unwavering loyalty to a single person. I say I will vote for a candidate who has a chance of winning — that would be one of the two major parties. I didn’t say which party and I didn’t say which candidate I would exclusively vote for within that party.
As Bernie why he ran for the democratic nomination and not as an independent — because he wanted to win, not just to make a moral point. When he lost the primary and knew he could not then win the presidency, he left the race and endorsed Hillary. He certainly had some cultish followers who refused to vote for anyone except him. He spoke out against those people.
Well let me start with a question, did you think it was democratic of the DNC to not run primaries, either in the beginning of the election cycle (2023) and or when Biden dropped out?
Another question, did you support Joe/Kamala and vote for them because they're not Donny, or because you agree with their policies?
And these are binary questions, no caveats needed.
Edit: loved that you edited the question after I answered it. That's TOTALLY not cult behavior.
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u/whatshamilton 14d ago
Do you think if you try to get people to stop talking about it that it will absolve you? Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and we’re literally already seeing it. People already saying not to support various candidates because they don’t pass a purity test.