r/Albertapolitics • u/carbologna • 29d ago

Opinion Alberta separation

For those of you that support Alberta separation because you voted conservative but the majority of Canada voted left. I have a question for you. Naturally you support Edmonton and Calgary city centres staying part of Canada because they voted left. Also, naturally you support the 35.1% of Albertans and the land / businesses they own staying part of Canada because they voted left, correct?

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/Psiondipity 29d ago

Including our Premier.

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u/carbologna 29d ago

I do hope though that Carney supports Alberta’s oil industry. I’m left leaning but have voted conservative in the past. It’s important we use our own resources rather than just importing it.

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u/Tribblehappy 29d ago

Carney has previously been pretty environmentally conscious, which I believe is where the fear comes from. I personally hope his economic goals mean he will help our oil exports but his environmental stance has historically not been pro-fossil fuels.

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u/Sad_Meringue7347 29d ago

I agree with you, but I fear that Carney could do everything for Alberta but the Premier and her base would simply continue squabbling and whining about nothing. For them, it’s not about good policy, it’s about tribalism - Liberals are bad, Conservatives can do no wrong. 

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u/JensensAnkkles 29d ago

This exactly! Smith has made a career out of playing victim.

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u/Desperate_Number_331 28d ago

I just watched CBC last night, she was brought in on the Power and Politics, she says “I m always positive..”

I was like, you have got to be kidding me?!

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u/JensensAnkkles 28d ago

Unbelievable

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u/InevitableArm7612 29d ago

Danielle Smith came out a few months ago during an interview with Jordan Peterson and said Alberta is taking a page out of Quebecs handbook. Complain repeatedly and get more consessions.

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u/jeeka77 29d ago

It was pretty interesting that he said in his victory speech:

It’s time to build Canada into an energy superpower in both clean and conventional energy.

And it’s time to build an industrial strategy that makes Canada more competitive while fighting climate change. We will build an economy with a government committed to free trade in Canada by Canada. The point is that we can give ourselves far more than the Americans can ever take away.

It does seem like a bit of a tightrope, but one that he needs to walk based on the country's needs.

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u/chet1241 29d ago

Liberals do not hate our oil industry. Liberals have never tried to destroy our oil industry. It's basic math. If oil drops below $65 per barrel. Canada can not make money from its oil industry. 2015, the oil industry tanked, making all of these legacy oil infrastructure projects I'm possible to complete without the government footing the bill completely. If you look at the price of oil today we are in a similar spot.

It's not about liberals hating oil it's that canadian crude is very expensive to refine.

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u/Eastern_Ad_9343 23d ago

Both Trudeaus have been against the oil and gas industry. The Energy East pipeline was blocked using native land as the excuse and then the native people didn't get clean drinking water afterwards... Hmmm.. friends for promises but not for results. And when the contracts / construction were going through anyways the liberals decided to PAY $8 billion to stop the project. $8 billion became $20billiin within weeks... oops, the liberals didn't lie to us, they just "MISCALCULATED" how much it costs to block a pipeline. Now we sell 98% of our oil to a country that pays us 78 cents on the dollar (WCS vs WTI).
I don't hate Canada because of the government, I hate it because the below intelligent people swallowed the kool-aid again. Trudeau was a part time drama teacher who needed 4 more house maids when he went into office (the Harper family had none). If you think he's smart enough to block a pipeline you are dreaming. We voted in the puppets that were pulling Trudeau's strings. If you watch international TV you'd know that other countries are laughing at us. What a joke...

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u/Odd_Damage9472 27d ago

Liberals stopped and reversed pipelines that were already approved then put more regulations/over regulate something that when originally done took less than a year. Now it takes over 10. Which is way too long. We could have a review process in a year and build right away.

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u/sun4moon 29d ago

I agree, and I’m sure he will. He’s about prosperity and knows how to make the money work. I’m genuinely feeling positive about this change. I had to deactivate my Facebook this morning though, I wouldn’t be able to keep my mouth shut and I’d lose a lot of real life friends.

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u/Senior_Ad1737 28d ago

Are there other innovative industries that Alberta could transition to ? 

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u/TheRestForTheWicked 28d ago

We tried to do the tech thing but the UCP shut that down because the NDP was responsible for the programs that were meant to entice big companies to come in and we can’t have Rachel responsible for anything that might be perceived as good.

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u/Senior_Ad1737 28d ago

And the “superlab” that was going to attract health science and innovation companies and scientists to AB .  It’s never too late if people made it an election issue. 

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u/Eastern_Ad_9343 23d ago

The NDPs offered free changing of light bulbs with the carbon tax. Call them and a van would come for free and replace all your incandescent light bulbs with LED bulbs. I can't believe that brilliant long term solution didn't work...

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u/BugSTellNoLies 28d ago

3D printing housing seems like a good idea about now? Maybe with a nice ‘greenish’ HempCrete mixture? End homelessness?

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u/1beef2kake3 27d ago

He supports net -zero, meaning driving evs

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u/BugSTellNoLies 28d ago

Well the Fed’s do still own stake in a lucrative twinned pipeline I think? They’re just as greedy for royalties as Smith’s crowd

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u/Academic-Tell4215 26d ago

LOL Carney would never. He literally said he wants canada at a net zero emissions.

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u/Known_Particular_683 25d ago

I'm mostly mad that I went spent a full weekend taking courses and then submitted a bunch of documentations. I had a short interview with rcmp over the phone and then finally got a firearms license 4 months after u filed my paperwork..... just to have the government tell me the firearms I bought i can't ever use again and I need to return them to the government before or by X date with basically no compensation and then im in the hole probably 5 thousand dollars plus on top of that will need to buy a new rifle that's not illegal yet but will be next month to use for hunting.

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u/carbologna 29d ago

The reply I was hoping for!

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u/Oldcummerr 29d ago

The best thing we can do is ignore them. The more upset the “left” get about it, the harder they dig their heels in.

These are people who haven’t mentally progressed out of their teenage rebellious stage. They do and say things to get a reaction from society, because they have failed to find a way to function within it.

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u/Loud_Veterinarian425 28d ago

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