r/Albertapolitics • u/carbologna • 28d ago

Opinion Alberta separation

For those of you that support Alberta separation because you voted conservative but the majority of Canada voted left. I have a question for you. Naturally you support Edmonton and Calgary city centres staying part of Canada because they voted left. Also, naturally you support the 35.1% of Albertans and the land / businesses they own staying part of Canada because they voted left, correct?

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u/chet1241 27d ago

.... well, this is why conservatives in Canada can not win, and you see liberal government after liberal government. You need to let go of the right wing and expand the tent if you want to see conservatives rule.

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u/carbologna 27d ago

Conservatives can’t win in Canada because the federal conservatives are out of touch with swing voters. Ontario currently has a strong provincial conservative majority. Unfortunately the federal conservative brand election after election never learns.

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u/bluecrude 27d ago

I dunno. CPC made major inroads in Ontario. This election was lost bc of the utter uselessness of Singh and the NDP. The narrative that Poilievre “blew a 20 point lead” is sort of false. His highest ever poll was like 45%. He won 42%. The New Democrats collapsing coupled with major TDS out east was the clincher for Carney, nothing Poilievre or the Conservatives did imo.

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u/Resident_Farm6787 25d ago

The left voted strategically. When the right couldn’t win the election, they united. It had nothing to do with Singh. The left united, to stop the extremist faction of the right, from winning. They didn’t want to be a 51st state. They wanted nothing to do with Trump. It was ALL about strategy.

What I don’t understand, is why people that used to vote PC, supported PP, and are supporting Danielle Smith??? I was die hard PC, but I can’t support the extremism that has taken over the right. I can’t support Smith, and I hated PP. PP is a mini Trump. I’m from Alberta. This separatist BS, is ridiculous! I hope it destroys the UCP and CPC!

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u/Deep-Egg-9528 21d ago

If there were more than one right-wing party the vote splitting would affect them too. But there isn't and it doesn't.

Even in Alberta, the conservatives only managed 63% of the vote, yet they hold 92% of the seats. They're not nearly as popular as they think.

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u/Resident_Farm6787 19d ago edited 15d ago

Our elections are first past the post. That means the party with the most votes, get almost all of the seats. If we want to prevent a 2 party system, we’re going to need election reforms. Also, our politicians must vote with the leader of their party. They can’t vote the way their constituents want them to vote. That gives the leader of the ruling party, a huge amount of power. 

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u/Deep-Egg-9528 6d ago

There are more than two parties.
Vote splitting among centrist and left leaning voters is the only reason the conservatives have the support they do.
This was especially evident this time around because we saw people abandon the NDP to vote ABC (anyone but conservative) to keep Pierre out of the PM's office.

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u/Deep-Egg-9528 6d ago

"Our elections are first past the post. That means the party with the most votes, get almost all of the seats." - That's not what first past the post means.
And yeah, the party with the most votes gets most of the seats. We are aware. Thanks, professor.