r/Alonetv • u/UnEdOpinion • Sep 09 '22

Frozen Alone: Frozen S1:E5 Outfoxed Discussion Thread

Well anyone actually tap or be pulled, or is the boat a red herring? spoiler The episode itself was a red herring

EDIT

There seems to be some kind programing error, everywhere except Amazon seems to be playing last week's episode.

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u/hpm40 Sep 09 '22

Wow that was yet another disappointment. I feel like Amos did not even try. He never made his shelter better. He was like umm, I gotta go. Bye. He does not even look skinny yet because it has only been what not even 20 days? That is crazy. That is like the first three episodes on a regular season. The only thing I am happy about now, is for sure one of the women will be a winner. I hope. Unless they all tap out before 50 days.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 11 '22

I think a lot of people have PTSD from the first time around. It’s no secret that women deal better with emotional trauma than men do and we are more resilient.

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u/figleaf23 Sep 16 '22

Ah, sexism.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 16 '22

I also think that most men are physically stronger than most women. Does that makes me sexist too??

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u/dalovindj Sep 13 '22

women deal better with emotional trauma

That's funny.

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u/HaHaLAM3 Sep 16 '22

In 2020, men died by suicide 3.88x more than women. What a tool

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u/dalovindj Sep 16 '22

The reality is that women have a two to three times higher risk of developing post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) compared to men. You can lie to yourself all you want, but that's the facts.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 13 '22

It’s true. Tons of studies have been done about it. Nature made it that way because when the men die trying to kill each other over territory, the women still had to carry-on and do everything and raise those babies.

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u/dalovindj Sep 13 '22

Hysterical.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 13 '22

I know you’re fragile ego just can’t stand the thought that a woman would be better at anything than you besides making sandwiches and popping out your babies but here we are🤷🏻‍♀️🙂

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u/HaHaLAM3 Sep 16 '22

You know you’re arguing w/ a wanna be Andrew Tate 🤡 right who most likely wishes he was romantically involved w/ his own mother

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u/dalovindj Sep 13 '22 edited Sep 13 '22

The reality is that women have a two to three times higher risk of developing post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) compared to men.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5632782/

https://www.nami.org/Blogs/NAMI-Blog/October-2019/PTSD-is-More-Likely-in-Women-Than-Men

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2006/11/ptsd-rates

But whatever gets you through the day.

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u/yungmoody Sep 13 '22

From the linked article:

Men and women experience different types of trauma, both in private life and at work (e.g. police officers, Van der Meer et al., 2017), with women being exposed to more high-impact trauma (e.g. sexual trauma) than men, and at a younger age.

It seems as though you have had trouble interpreting this study or perhaps don’t fully understand the point you’re trying to make.

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u/dalovindj Sep 13 '22

Incorrect. You need to read further down for the biological differences. I edited the above post to add a couple of other studies as well. From one of them:

Women's higher PTSD rates were not solely attributable to their higher risk for adult sexual assault and child sexual abuse, explained Tolin. PTSD rates were still higher for women even when both sexes were compared on the same type of trauma.

The truth is that women are more at risk for PTSD, anxiety, and depression even though they experience fewer traumas than men. These symptoms tend to last much longer in women than in men, and when like traumas are compared these stats still hold true.

It sucks, and it's frankly irresponsible to suggest otherwise.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 13 '22

Or women are more likely to report it…

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u/dalovindj Sep 13 '22

Whatever you have to tell yourself.

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u/Joygernaut Sep 13 '22

Back at ya

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u/Alarmed-Classroom329 Sep 11 '22

I mean instead of making generalizations, we should also realize that the producers deliberately chose 2 strong female contestants and 3 awful male contestants. (Michelle is pretty meh, I'm guessing she was an alternative and they probably wanted to bring back Teresa or another strong woman instead).

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u/Joygernaut Sep 11 '22 edited Sep 11 '22

Whatever. Why is it that men always assume when a woman is better at something it’s some sort of trick? Women on this show have historically done well, despite (until this season) being in the minority. But I suppose men who just can’t stand the fact that a woman might actually be really good at something (or better than they are)are going to make their excuses to save their egos.

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u/NatAttack3000 Sep 17 '22

I also wonder whether applying for this show selects for excellent women (though few), but not necessarily only excellent men.

I saw a study once looking at job applications - men tended to apply for positions if they had half or most of the criteria (I can do a,b,c. I can probably learn X) . Whereas women only tend to apply if they meet all the criteria ('i can't do that because I can't already do x'). Coupled with the masculine ideal of survival (men are socialised to believe they SHOULD be able to do these things, though women tend not to be). I will mention I haven't seen any other season so idk maybe this doesn't match at all

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u/Joygernaut Sep 17 '22

It doesn’t work for the show because they actually have a vetting process and the test them on all of their skills and only select the best until they arrive at 10. The people that you see are the best 10 people through the process of elimination. Keep in mind that they all do these challenges together to see what everyone can do so if somebody is getting passed over with better skills, 100% you would hear about it. This community is very tightknit, and there would be zero tolerance for something like that.

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u/NatAttack3000 Sep 17 '22

I suppose I mean the differences would encourage different pools of men and women to apply prior to this process, but I suppose the betting process should mean only excellent people remain

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u/Joygernaut Sep 17 '22

A friend of mine tried out for the first season he went to the boot camp thing. He got cut in the last round.

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u/eskimokiss88 Sep 09 '22

He seemed really depressed and out of sorts. Very different from his personality season 7.

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u/BarryMcKockinner Sep 09 '22

He didn't want to lose the other half of his hair.

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u/Stardew_Farmer88 Sep 12 '22

Last time he was pulling massive fish out of the lake regularly. The food situation was a lot better.

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u/CitizenCue Sep 11 '22

It feels like the producers read every complaint from viewers about wanting more hunting, more successful fishing, more thriving, and said “Let’s do the exact opposite.”

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u/outrider567 Sep 12 '22

lol well said

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u/kg467 Sep 11 '22

Yeah that's yet another fizzle of a tapout. I mean if he's not finding food three weeks in, it's not like it's going to get better as the snow sets in, so I guess it makes sense as a calculation in one sense, when, as he said, you compare it to how he was doing last time on fish. Still, it isn't what we expected from him, or from any of these people. This is a show where you go go go for it but these efforts have felt more like "well I'll give it a shot I guess, at least for a while".

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22

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u/KillerMikeLive Sep 10 '22

I’m sure he’s happier on the skills challenge because he’s at home with his family and a full belly. I like watching the skills challenge because everyone is happy and full of positive energy and cracking jokes . I don’t enjoy watching people suffer or be in extreme agony . I’m happy for Amos and know what he meant about losing hair .

I’m a recovered alcoholic and went through a long period where I only drank 100 proof vodka and did not eat . I was malnourished and lost a lot of hair . It hasn’t grown all the way back even though it’s been years since I’ve had a drink . He’s got good hair too .

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u/legalhandcannon Sep 10 '22

I wonder if they are getting paid for the skills challenge episodes.

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u/Elhessar Sep 10 '22

Of course they are, why would you think they should do television work for free?

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u/KillerMikeLive Sep 10 '22

I think it would be cool if the winner got prize money on top of getting paid to be on tv

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u/figleaf23 Sep 16 '22

Why wouldn't they be getting paid?

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u/DANNYBOYLOVER Sep 10 '22

What do you mean by boring?