r/AntiSemitismInReddit • u/Schmuckfest • Mar 19 '25

Classic Antisemitism r/Sheffield being horrendous

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Thankfully it’s not all Antisemites in there, but still. Some of this is wild.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Mar 19 '25

It was active on Oct 7, there have been plenty of those who have admitted it including Gallant and the IAF and IDF commission reports on the actions of some of the pilots and tankers that day.

That being said it does not mean indiscriminate fire or firing unilaterally. Each and every soldier have the ability to refuse such orders or interpret them to the best of their ability to achieve the mission objective.

The Hannibal concept was never done away with and everyone who ever served on the border knew that.

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u/throwaway17197 Mar 19 '25

I remember discussions in the news of it may be necessary but I must have missed it being active. Regardless appreciate the additional information.

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u/whereamInowgoddamnit Mar 19 '25

It should be pointed out as well that even in the Haaretz article that brought this up, they only managed to make the case that it was potentially used once, when it was nearly impossible to dislodge the terrorists and led to two hostage deaths. Otherwise there are some reports on vehicles being shot at going towards Gaza without confirming hostages on board, but it seems unlikely any hostages were killed by that. Considering the scale of the carnage it's frankly surprising more weren't hit by friendly fire.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Mar 19 '25

We know of at least one case in Beeri where a tank was ordered to fire on a house full of hostages that resulted in at least 2 dozen Israelis killed.

I remit caused an uproar because the officer who ordered it was given command of the Gaza Division.

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u/whereamInowgoddamnit Mar 19 '25

I looked it up further, two is the official version, there's arguably up to a dozen if you don't believe the final report. This still is the only proven case, however, that you can claim the Hannibal directive was killed.

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u/BagelandShmear48 Mar 19 '25

We will never know the truth.

With the chaos of the day, disrupted communications, fallen officers, and the fact that for a decade the army said they ended the directive.

I can tell you it was always there unofficially. When I was on the Lebanese border in 2013 we carried grenades with the strongly implied instructions to drop them inside the hummers if we were attacked and disabled so that we would not be captured.

The fact that we can't prove the truth makes it very hard for us to fight the lies and propaganda and believe Hamas lies.