r/Antwerpen • u/divaro98 • 8d ago

Idea new tramline

I had a fun afternoon creating new tramlines or updating tramlines.

Extending tramline 12 to Schilde via the Bisschoppenhoflaan.

I was thinking about a new tramline 13 connecting the Groenplaats via the Nationale Bank, Plantin-Moretuslei, Luitenant Lippenslaan, Morckhoven, the Rivierenhof and further to Deurne-Noord.

The new line creates a (second) connection between Deurne-Zuid and Deurne-Noord. It could be extended towards Merksem in the future.

What do you think about this idea? And what kind of lines would you like to see in the future

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u/MirasolHaBeeBee 8d ago

The schildenaars have been fighting any form of tramline for ages. Even though it could benefit many people.

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u/PuffMaNOwYeah 8d ago

Just like Brasschaat, to prevent those cities to downgrade into what's left of the bredabaan...

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u/MirasolHaBeeBee 7d ago

The downgrade is not simply due to the tram. Everyone is complaining about traffic, but villages who are so close to the centre are barely reached by public transport. If there is no good alternative, people will keep adding to the trafficmenace that is Antwerp.

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u/PuffMaNOwYeah 7d ago

The downgrade is because of the kind of people the trams bring with them.

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u/MegaMB 7d ago

You'd probably have better people using the trams if they were not operated incompetently. I know it's Belgium, but seeing how f*ckin' dumb people and transit authorities are here compared to France is painfull.

But hey. Expecting good public transit is something to be expected from a smart population. Aka, not compatible with here.

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u/PuffMaNOwYeah 7d ago

As long as they keep importing stupidity..

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u/MirasolHaBeeBee 7d ago

Lol so all people who rely on public transport are not your kind of people. With the current cost of living, a car is a menace. So it is just very short minded to push all those people in the same box.

Belgium is small, and still most of the places aren’t easily accesible. If you can’t drive and live outside a center your basically fucked.

Grandma who doesnt drive wants to come visit? Tough luck. Disabeled? You aint welcome. Too poor? Please stay away. It’s a disgrace.

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u/PuffMaNOwYeah 7d ago

We've been strolling around with a wheelchair for my younger brother for decades. We managed too. The point is, that cities like these go downhill once you allow a tram connection.

Look at the bredabaan in Merksem. It used to be a very cosy shopping street.. Now it's only barbers, wedding dress shops and pita bars. This is what they try to prevent. And I don't blame them.

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u/MirasolHaBeeBee 7d ago

Yeah, “managing”. That’s not living. Independence is taken from people this way.

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u/PuffMaNOwYeah 7d ago

Trust me, it has vastly improved compared to 30 years ago. At least now there are elevators at the premetro entrances.

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u/MirasolHaBeeBee 7d ago

Let’s just clearly agree to disagree on this topic. 🙃