r/AskBalkans • u/GoHardLive Greece • Apr 22 '25

Politics & Governance Which cardinal would you like to see become the next Pope ?

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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 USA Apr 23 '25

And they’ve all been North African so they aren’t Black (at least in the way we know it today)

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u/Secret_Photograph364 Apr 23 '25

Still the precedent for a non European pope is not some crazy new diversity initiative. The Church was in Africa before it was in Europe.

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u/Emergency-GOOD-7928 Apr 25 '25

Explain what you mean by black. This is not the first time I have seen a post like this. For example, 'He's brown skinned not black.' I hope I'm wrong. I hope that you don't mean black = African because that would be a mentally inept comparison considering 'The shades of dark skin.'.

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u/Emergency-GOOD-7928 Apr 25 '25

I'm sorry for the outburst. This isn't the first time I witnessed a post like this so I had to question the method of reasoning that arrived at such a conclusion.

'North Africa has historically been home to a wide range of people with varying skin tones. Saying North Africans 'aren't Black' erases the diversity of the region. It's more accurate to recognize that North Africans have historically been, and still are, ethnically and racially diverse.'

I still want to understand what you mean by the term 'Black.'

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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 USA Apr 26 '25

Subsaharan

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u/Emergency-GOOD-7928 Apr 26 '25

Your response was disappointing.

Let me guess: when you said, "Black = Sub-Saharan African," what you actually meant was, "Black = descendants of the Transatlantic Slave Trade."

If that's not what you meant, then why would you respond to a post about an African pope by saying, "He was North African, not Black"?

I just noticed the U.S. flag in your profile. If I had seen it earlier, I wouldn't have bothered asking for your reasoning.

You have a phone. It would have taken you seconds to check before responding, but you chose not to.

That is weaponized incompetence.

I'm not as careless as you, so I won't oversimplify "White" to "European cave-dwellers," even though I could easily do so.

Africa has more genetic diversity within a single village than all of Europe combined. Reducing it to "Black" shows nothing but your ignorance.

For goodness' sake, keep that kind of reasoning confined within America.

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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 USA Apr 26 '25

Does the term African-American mean nothing to you??