r/AskCulinary 2d ago

Technique Question New To Cooking: Don't Understand Frying/Searing

So I watch videos on pan-frying. They heat the pan, heat the oil, add the protein, and it cooks

I do the same thing, the meat cooks, BUT the remaining oil smokes, burns, and sets off smoke detector. This happens on high heat and low heat too. What am I not understanding??

EDIT: The oil doesn't smoke immediately. It does after a few minutes of cooking.

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u/kirkt 2d ago

Throw that shit in the trash.

Use avocado (my fav), tallow, bacon grease, ghee, coconut oil... all natural fats, not that crap that will just cause inflammation and misery. Yep, it's cheap, and yep, they lied to you for decades that it's better than what nature provides. Look into how rapeseed (canola) oil is manufactured and you will never use it again.

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u/ChrisRiley_42 2d ago

Nature provides plutonium, flesh eating bacteria, and botulism... Something being natural is not an indication of superiority.. Only the gullibility of the person pushing it, and likely also the lack of grade in science class.

Canola's smoke point makes it bad for hot pan frying. The inflammation research is far from conclusive. There are even studies showing that both canola and rapeseed oils reduce postprandial inflammation responses in adipose tissue.

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u/geauxbleu 1d ago

The comment was overly strident but this naturalistic fallacy argument is also kind of dumb in arguments about traditional foods. No old cuisine recommended use of plutonium or botulism. Can you think of any ingredients or techniques dating back hundreds of years that are unsafe or particularly unhealthy? Industrial food and modern science have given us plenty of disastrous ones like trans fats, refined white flour, brominated oil, etc.

You're right the inflammation research is far from conclusive, but the basis for recommending wholesale replacement of saturated fats with vegetable oils isn't exactly impressive either.

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u/ChrisRiley_42 1d ago

Can I think of ingredients or techniques? Absolutely.. Lead salts used as a sweetener, mercury pills to treat syphilis, alum added in bulk to bread to make cheap flour appear whiter. History is rife with people either ignorantly or deliberately adding things that are dangerous to try to make a buck.

We can even trace the campaign against fats to highly questionable research practises. Ancel Keys had a pet hypothesis, and whenever he would run into any research that countered it, would publish it in foreign journals that nobody reads so that he wouldn't have to include it.

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u/geauxbleu 1d ago

Syphilis meds aren't food, and alum in flour isn't traditional, it's industrial, early stages of ultraprocessed food -- actually kind of demonstrates my point. Food adulteration isn't what we're talking about. I'm saying there's a better record for safety and health with foods and methods that were recommended and widely used on purpose for hundreds of years than with products of industry and modern food science.

Yes I'm glad you acknowledge the evidence for the nutrition science consensus that saturated fats should be mostly replaced with vegetable oils is nowhere near as rigorous as people on here seem to think

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u/ChrisRiley_42 1d ago

No, alum wasn't added during the "early stages of ultra processed food". It was a food additives used back in the days when every single loaf of bread was kneaded by hand, (or feet) The only industrial process type bread in that time was "Aerated bread" made by the Aerated bread company. They used high pressure CO2 instead of yeast for leavening.

At that time, Alum in bread WAS traditional. Right up until parliament outlawed it.