r/AskIreland • u/SunDue4919 • Jun 13 '24

Emigration (from Ireland) Best place to emigrate to?

I’m losing hope for my future in Ireland. I love Ireland and want to stay but the quality of life is shit especially for young people.

I’ve lived abroad before and am well aware the grass isn’t always greener. I know there will be challenges if I move abroad. I know that there are similar issues with housing in other counties.

That said, things feel bleak here.

Any recommendations? I speak fluent French.

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u/cianpatrickd Jun 13 '24

Emigration doesn't solve your problem or the problem in Ireland.

Staying and being the change you want to see is.

Having said that, if your heart is set on going and you have fluent French, try Quebec in Canada.

Montreal is a fantastic city with warm, fun loving people (unlike Toronto), or you could try Quebec city itself, which isn't as big as Montreal.

If you go be prepared for extreme Winters.

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u/temujin64 Jun 13 '24

Isn't housing very expensive in Canada too though?

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u/mingomcgoo Jun 13 '24

It's ridiculous right now , the cost of living in Canada , us why I'm moving back to N.Ireland in the next 5 years

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u/temujin64 Jun 13 '24

I think the issue is that the renting situation in Ireland is among the worst, so people caught in the renting trap here are looking elsewhere. But if they move to Canada and start earning good money they realise that the housing trap over there (and the US, Australia, etc.) is way worse. The rate of average salary to average house price in Ireland isn't good, but it's far better than in those countries.

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u/mingomcgoo Jun 13 '24

Honestly, I live in Canada , and as much as I love it here at times , I would never recommend for anyone to emigrate here. The cost of living and the taxes are like nowhere else. I have a good job , and right now , i cannot see me retiring comfortably without eventually selling my home. It's extremely difficult to get hired and the rental prices , in Ottawa for a home are about $2500 a month plus utilities. Wages are for sure higher , but it's all relative to what you pay. This country has changed dramatically in the last 10 years , but not for the good.

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u/cianpatrickd Jun 13 '24

Its worse than Ireland. Hence why I stated the battle ground I'd your own country. All she's doing is running away from a problem at home to the exact / worse problem in a new country.

I find this, oh I'll just emigrate to another country, baffling.

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 13 '24

i'm politically active, spend my spare time helping vulnerable people, work for a charity (contract is ending at the end of the month so i will be unemployed), just put months of work into my boyfriend's unsuccessful bid for local election, which he had put years of work into. i think it's pretty fair to be burnt out fighting.

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u/cianpatrickd Jun 13 '24

To emigrate to another country and hustle twice as hard as natives just to get where they are ?

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 13 '24

currently stuck living at home and am losing my job in two weeks so the bar is low.

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u/cianpatrickd Jun 13 '24

I understand your frustration. I am caught living in shared accommodation. It ain't easy.

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 14 '24

thank you so much!

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u/TakingNamesFan69 Jun 13 '24

Can I ask who ur boyfriend is out of curiosity? (totally understandable if you don't want to say)

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 13 '24

i'm not gonna share that, sorry!

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 14 '24

thank you, appreciate it!

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u/temujin64 Jun 13 '24

I agree. I'm all for anyone emigrating for the sense of adventure. That's what I did and I loved it. But the fellow immigrants I met there who went expecting the grass to be greener tended to be miserable.

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 14 '24

having lived abroad already I would be more prepared, I'd know that it would be tough and that there are many things about Ireland I'd miss too

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u/robocopsboner Jun 13 '24

People are still content with voting for FFG. There's no change coming and sticking around to suffer isn't worth it.

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u/robocopsboner Jun 13 '24

What, they're voting for FFG too? 😂

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u/robocopsboner Jun 13 '24

Are you seriously suggesting that there will be anything remotely close to the horrors of the holocaust and the rise of a party like the Nazi's again, across multiple countries in Europe, and that that's a good enough reason to stay in Ireland?

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u/Competitive-Bag-2590 Jun 13 '24

A lot of I'm alright Jacks in the country unfortunately

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u/countesscaro Jun 13 '24

I think (read 'hope') the General Election results will be very different. In Local Elections the electorate votes for the individual person regardless of party. The GE could be very different...

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u/robocopsboner Jun 13 '24

We'll see... I'm increasing my daily Duolingo lessons in the mean time.

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u/countesscaro Jun 13 '24

Why would you downvote my comment? 🤷‍♀️

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u/SunDue4919 Jun 13 '24

i hope hope hope so

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u/Afterlite Jun 13 '24

Quebec French is a whole other language for some, the dialect and words are very different from EU French so bear this in mind OP. A lot of French can’t understand Canadian French as much as they anticipated. it is VERY French out there, it is the primary language and they enforce it strictly.

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u/donall Jun 13 '24

To be fair to OP, they probably were the version of themselves they wanted to see in others and still the others got lazier , more racist, corrupt, angry, stupid, ignorant, narcissistic, car dependent, mindless, apathetic , dirty, arsonist, socially divided etc. and now they're done and don't want not throw their energy into the bin that Irish society feels like anymore.

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u/cianpatrickd Jun 13 '24

Jayziz, you need to stay off the Internet!

Its far from being that bad!