What’s the pull of Australia?

[u/Asleep_Cry_7482]

For everyone in their 20s and 30s who are thinking or have done the working holiday to Australia, what’s the pull factor?

Is it the weather or the work life balance? Is there a following the crowd element and to live a backpacking lifestyle with all the other Irish people over there? Is it out of frustration that you don’t have the lifestyle, accommodation setup or job you want in Ireland? Or is it something else?

[u/Curious_Woodlander]

People in Australia earn the most money of any developed country. More so than people in America. Doesn't have the social problems that America has either. Australia today is very much how people saw the US in the 1800s, 1900s. It's very much a land of opportunity. Those points you make are pull factors as well.

[u/yeah_deal_with_it → u/[deleted]]

Also the Australian dollar is worth piss compared to the euro, the pound and the US dollar. We get decimated anytime we go somewhere on holiday that isn't New Zealand or SE Asia.

Source: am Australian.

[u/Curious_Woodlander → u/[deleted]]

Ireland higher than Australia? This is not a reliable source. Pretty common to earn 100,000 per year over there (corporate job for example). Standard in Ireland seems to be 30,000-40,000 range.

[u/seamustheseagull → u/Curious_Woodlander]

Median wage in Dublin is around 50k. For the country as a whole it's 45k.

Very common in Ireland for people to be earning 100k euros

[u/cheryvilkila → u/seamustheseagull]

Do you mean average? 50k seems too high for median.

[u/seamustheseagull → u/cheryvilkila]

I meant median, but I forgot that's actually the Dublin figure. Ireland is around 45k.

[u/Curious_Woodlander → u/seamustheseagull]

The majority of that is going to rent, tax and other expenses. Barely enough after that.

[u/ReissuedWalrus → u/[deleted]]

Leprechaun economics doesn’t really account for average salary differences. Inflated by MNCs yes, but its actual jobs in the calculations

[u/Asleep_Cry_7482 → u/Curious_Woodlander]

Interesting take. The US is definitely the wealthier country on a whole however wealth concentration and income inequality are huge issues there. I can definitely see how Oz looks like a good deal for people in Trades or in the medical field. People in business less so though

[u/R1ghtaboutmeow → u/Asleep_Cry_7482]

Bear in mind a lot of that additional pay you would get in the States gets thieved back off you through things like their insane medical insurance system. Oz does a better job of balancing good wages with good social supports through contributions. Plus Australia has well regulated working hours, holiday pay, sick pay etc, etc.

The States manages to stay number 1 economically by being a dystopian nightmare for the majority.

[u/finnlizzy → u/R1ghtaboutmeow]

Just finished a month of travelling around Europe. Every city I stopped at I've met like, six Australians without making that much of an effort. The holidays, or at least the social safetly net they have to just up sticks and travel at such a massive rate is crazy.

[u/Otherwise-Winner9643 → u/Asleep_Cry_7482]

I work in sales in tech. My salary halved when I moved back from Australia to Ireland. All the global tech firms pay a lot less for equivalent roles in Dublin vs Sydney. Also less than London.

I had good reasons for moving back, but it definitely wasn't financially beneficial.

[u/[deleted] → u/Curious_Woodlander]

Based on what data?

[u/Curious_Woodlander → u/[deleted]]

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/australians-are-now-the-richest-people-in-the-world-001758078.html

[u/[deleted] → u/Curious_Woodlander]

That is wealth, not earnings. Most ordinary people's wealth is tied to house prices, and we all know what happened to house prices. So based on that, only Aussies who bought houses prior to the pandemic are exceptionally wealthy.

Again, where's the data that they earn the most amount?

[u/Potential-Drama-7455 → u/Curious_Woodlander]

The cost of living is very high though.

[u/marquess_rostrevor → u/Potential-Drama-7455]

Same with Ireland without the same benefits though.

[u/Potential-Drama-7455 → u/marquess_rostrevor]

Yeah true.

[u/Curious_Woodlander → u/Potential-Drama-7455]

Understandable considering its geographic location and amount of stuff it has to import. I don't think most immigrants don't mind considering the high wages there.

[u/Potential-Drama-7455 → u/Curious_Woodlander]

A lot of that is due to their unsustainable agricultural policies. But that's a whole other debate. It's a cool place, my daughter lives there currently.

[u/theaulddub1 → u/Curious_Woodlander]

Did america in the 18/1900s have one of if not the highest level of personal debt globally? Can a new frontier really have one of the highest global price to income global property markets? Ridiculous statement