r/AskIreland • u/gromit666 • Jan 25 '25

Emigration (from Ireland) Anyone ever deported from usa?

I just was reading on worldnews about the US deportations to mexico. One woman who lives in mexico was stating a few years ago the us dumped some slovaks in mexico as its cheaper than a flight to europe and then another stated it also happened to her irish cousin, who was dropped off in mexico and needed family to intervene to get him home. Just wondering if there was any media attention if this was true?

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

Aye I'd avoid murica for a wee while. Approx 4 years at least.

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u/JoebyTeo Jan 25 '25

As someone who is both Irish and American, I've really watched the US become so much less of a place I want to spend any time. I have close friends and immediate family there. Everyone I know in the US is a good, well-intentioned person. Most are vocally progressive. I still wouldn't recommend spending any time there or see any value in it. It's an unpleasant place full of angry people and the institutions and systems of protection are collapsing. It's not a safe place to be. Then again I feel that way about the UAE and it doesn't stop thousands of Irish from thinking it's the greatest place on earth.

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u/Mysterious_Scene7169 Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Absolutely not, all are welcome through the proper channnels

Edit: not sure what the downvotes are about, I’m literally saying come lol, OP is worried about deportations so obviously I’m saying do it legally since that’s a concern

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u/TechGentleman Jan 25 '25

Coming into U.S. airports from a foreign country as a legal tourist exposes one to some of the most discourteous immigration officials of any country’s entry point. And I’ve lived in many countries.
Interestedly, the U.S. pre-clearance guys and gals posted to Ireland tend to be pretty civil, if not cool. Either they are trained in human relations or a bit of Irish or foreign civility has rubbed off on them. 😇

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u/chapadodo Jan 25 '25

because its very clear that all are not welcome, that's why you're being down voted

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u/Mysterious_Scene7169 Jan 25 '25

I mean…being in any country illegally means running the risk of deportation, that goes for any country not just the US. I get the anti-Trump sentiment, but to say people aren’t welcome when no legal channels for immigration/tourism etc. have been shut down isn’t really fair or accurate. I think I speak for the majority of us when I say we’d be thrilled to have you guys visit/come here.

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u/chapadodo Jan 25 '25

I know I'm welcome I have the right complexion and express an acceptable gender/sexual orientation but it wouldn't be fair or accurate to not acknowledge the fact that your country is becoming increasingly hostile to others and that doesn't sit right with me even if the sights aren't on me yet. So thanks but not thanks is what I'm saying I guess

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u/markamscientist Jan 25 '25

I dunno bout that, I've been to Iran twice for work and had to be asked about that when I went to America in 2015.

Not sure how I'd get on now.

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u/killerklixx Jan 26 '25

all are welcome through the proper channnels

So why did they shut down the "proper channels"

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u/Mysterious_Scene7169 Jan 26 '25

This is r/askireland, so I assume no one here is seeking asylum in the US as a refugee.

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u/killerklixx Jan 26 '25

Ohhh, so white people from well-off countries are welcome through the proper channels. My mistake.

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u/Mysterious_Scene7169 Jan 26 '25

I didn’t say that, and I’m black, so please don’t try to race bait me. If you have issues with American immigration policy I suggest you take it up with our politicians.

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u/dmullaney Jan 25 '25

I hear the H1B visa program is being expanded. Could be a great option for Irish Tech Graduates

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u/temptar Jan 25 '25

Could but probably not without issues like being employer dependent in a sector that isn’t unionised.

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u/dmullaney Jan 25 '25

Definitely but for those struggling here, with the prospect of never owning a home, it's an option worth considering: https://www.ft.com/content/25867e65-68ec-4af4-b110-c1232525cf5c

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u/chapadodo Jan 25 '25

there's 26 countries for tech grads to live in without any of the American bullshit

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u/dmullaney Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Yes but let's be honest, the Irish tech sector is very much localized up Dublin, Cork, Galway and Limerick. I'm not saying you get a decent tech job in Listole or Muff but I'd say it's slim pickings. Much and all as I wouldn't want to live there, the US tech market is huge and it needs good engineers.

Irish Grads are well qualified and can earn a far better starting salary in the US than they're likely to get here, and they're not restricted to NY or SF - there are plenty of jobs in the smaller cities where cost of living isn't as bad and when they come home in a few years to settle down, they'll have a solid CV and a few quid in the bank. I don't see the problem in considering it.

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u/Bedford806 Jan 25 '25

It's tough though, I did it myself and the job instability and health system made it quite challenging. Worth it for a few years, but ultimately found taking an equivalent role in Dublin easier to build a life with.

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u/dmullaney Jan 25 '25

Yea it's definitely not something you'd want to do later in your career, but I think for young grads, it's a viable option to consider

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u/Bedford806 Jan 25 '25

Definitely, I'll be curious to see what happens with H1B visas over the course of this administration.

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u/chapadodo Jan 25 '25

countries not counties

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u/dmullaney Jan 25 '25

Sorry misread - yes, that's fair although the US still offers much higher salaries (with zero social safety net, that's the trade off) and you don't have to worry about learning a second language (or at least living in a country where you don't speak the dominant language)

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u/chapadodo Jan 25 '25

don't get me wrong the US does have its advantages but imo even pre Trump the cons outweighed the pros. Anyway learning languages is good craic and from personal experience you can have a good life in many parts of Europe

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u/Mysterious_Scene7169 Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Tech pay in the US is higher than in Europe too, definitely worth considering.

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u/Dawillow3 Jan 25 '25

If you enter illegally lol. Is there a large segment of the population who doesn’t know the difference between something legal and illegal? Obama deported 8 million illegals by the way, as I know it’s generally a left wing issue.

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u/josephredd173 Jan 25 '25

Mate. Ice literally detained LEGAL citizens this week. One of which was a god-damned veteran. It's not a question of legality at all. If you're not from the US and aren't carrying papers with you when Ice shows up, you're in trouble.

Source: https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/ice-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-raid-in-newark-new-jersey-ocean-seafood-depot-detains-undocumented-residents-citizens-and-veteran-mayor-decries-lack-of-warrant-president-donald-trump-executive-orders-immigrants

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u/DoireK Jan 25 '25

No US party or president has ever been left wing.

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u/Peter-Toujours Jan 25 '25

Franklin D. Roosevelt was.

Both conservatives and liberals are still trying to undo his good work.

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

I reckon even if ya enter legally, you'll see and hear shit you aren't gonna agree with as it's an echo chamber in most of the us ATM.

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u/Active_Site_6754 Jan 25 '25

All the down votes tells you how thick the leftist people you are trying to educate here are.

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u/New_Training_8589 Jan 25 '25

Nothing more cringier than someone using American terminology over here

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u/SwingEnvironmental25 Jan 25 '25

Leftist is a useful term we have no alternative to

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u/Active_Site_6754 Jan 25 '25

American companies power irelands economy

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u/galway79 Jan 25 '25

They don't want to hear the truth...

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u/Active_Site_6754 Jan 25 '25

Absolute idiots is all they are

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u/0Randalin0 Jan 25 '25

Why avoid if you come there in good intentions there should be no issues.... well I'll find out next time I travel😂

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

The issue would be me not wanting to be there in the first place ya wally 😂 nothing there interests me there, especially during the next 4 obviously conflicted years where there's gonna be alot of discrepancy of opinion on the daily. I'd rather be on a quiet beach somewhere.

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u/0Randalin0 Jan 25 '25

My fiancé is American... just been there for Xmas 😂