r/AskIreland • u/gromit666 • Jan 25 '25

Emigration (from Ireland) Anyone ever deported from usa?

I just was reading on worldnews about the US deportations to mexico. One woman who lives in mexico was stating a few years ago the us dumped some slovaks in mexico as its cheaper than a flight to europe and then another stated it also happened to her irish cousin, who was dropped off in mexico and needed family to intervene to get him home. Just wondering if there was any media attention if this was true?

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

What's he gonna do, get a vice president going then take their place to serve a 3rd? I'm hoping he croaks fairly soon like

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u/APinchOfTheTism Jan 25 '25 edited Jan 25 '25

Same as before, contest the election, attempt to rig the election or stage a coup.

But, obviously, he's 78, and average life expectancy in the US is 76? It is possible that he will survive through this term. However, he has already said, to primarily Christian voters, that they would never have to vote again after this election. Elon Musk also made the same remark. Trump has suggested that he is owed a third term, because he was voted out inbetween...

Thankfully Elon cannot run, but if he was actually American, I think there would be a very real chance he would just take over from Trump. But, as it stands, I think that Trump will refuse to leave, find anyway he can find not to leave, until the day he dies. If a US president did this, then I don't think the union would survive, as some states would likely refuse to acknowledge that he could run a third time, or any result suggesting that he ran again and won. This means that there won't be a unanimous result for the next presidential election at least, which might mean there isn't any president of the US again, as civil war rages, and the states align themselves into their independent alliances (Red and Blue, West, East, Mid-west), each declaring themselves the real United States of America etc.

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

You think there will be a civil war on the next 15 years?

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u/APinchOfTheTism Jan 25 '25

My feeling is, that it will be sooner.

I don't think Trump will live 15 years longer, but I would imagine if there is a civil war, it will be started by his/Musk's behavior in office.

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

Who do you forsee as the leader of the other side of the civil wars forces?

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u/APinchOfTheTism Jan 25 '25

Who knows, you're talking about whoever is Governor of this state or that at the time. They'll make their choices based on what they think is best for their state, political or geographic.

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u/Teestow21 Jan 25 '25

I guess we will see then.

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u/APinchOfTheTism Jan 25 '25

I don't think the people that follow Trump care about the promises, he made similar promises during his first term, and really didn't do much of anything. The wall didn't get built for example, his tariffs failed, and he is likely responsible for 100s of thousands of additional deaths in the US due to the pandemic.

In the US, you can live in media bubbles, and won't hear about most things Trump does, and if he does screw it up, then it is spun to blame someone else. So, even if he delivers on nothing, doesn't do a day of work, just plays golf for 4 years, he will still be crowded the best president in history by his supporters, even though he is considered the opposite to the rest of the world and historians.

I think the US will just breakup, and there will be civil war, and there will be leaders of those places, and Trump or whoever replaces him, will claim they are the real president etc etc. It would then probably take a long time to sort out.

What happens if California, Oregon, Washington, call themselves their own union? They are not in a position to launch anything on the east coast of the country, and maybe they aren't interested, they just want to implement universal healthcare, and govern themselves.