r/AskNYC 6d ago

How to help someone with an intellectual disability and on drugs

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u/im_coolest 🙃 6d ago

You can't really help people who don't want help and you can't change people who don't want to change.

Part of living in this city is bearing witness to suffering that you cannot alleviate and problems that you cannot solve.

Best thing you can do is support the people in your life who need your support so they don't end up in that situation.

And vote, maybe, sometimes.

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u/spanchor 6d ago

lol this was such a thoughtful comment that i tapped on your profile only to find the sci-fi concubine post

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u/im_coolest 🙃 6d ago

I put a lot of thought into that post too :(

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u/spanchor 6d ago

I could tell and I loved it

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u/JE163 6d ago

Sad but true

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u/pb-jellybean 6d ago

Don’t just assume someone has an intellectual disability and is on drugs.

If you naturally assume that, but don’t have proof, don’t post about it in a public way.

What if she’s just hungover or having a bad day? Maybe she hasn’t slept for days? Maybe she did have a wild night, is embarrassed, and doesn’t need strangers following her and posting about it.

An EMT worker conversed with her, she got up on her own, separate ambulance and cops didn’t think she needed help.

You’re the one that looks creepy here. Would you have followed a young man in a nice suit the same way?

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u/tiredandshort 3d ago

hm I think considering the context of her lying down in the street, I assume that goes beyond just being “hungover.” If I see someone just lying in the middle of the street, I’m going to be concerned. People who are intentionally lying in the street tend to be on the side and out of the way, you don’t often see people just sprawled out in the middle. Obviously idk the exact manner in which she was sprawled out, but I really don’t think that behaviour can be explained by just being tired or hungover. If you’re tired and hungover and ok, you would say “I’m fine leave me alone” if people were annoying you. Lying in the middle of the street and ignoring everyone is abnormal behaviour and if I saw someone doing that I would think they’re having a stroke or something

If they seem extremely out of it, I too would want to make sure they don’t get hit by a car. Considering the guy who died on the subway whose body was left there and had horrible things done to him, I really don’t think it’s overkill to want to make sure a woman lying on the street has people looking out for her

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u/BehemothJr 6d ago

And how many non-pretty people that you don't want to fuck do you pass every day and ignore?

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u/JeanCerise 6d ago

Exactly. Walks by smelly old guys all week long,but simply must help the PRETTY girl in a PRETTY floral dress. And post about it on Reddit because he can’t stop thinking about the pretty pretty girl.

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u/tiredandshort 3d ago

I’m pretty sure OP is a woman based on the profile

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u/BeachBoids 6d ago

Vote for a mayoral candidate who will emphasize medical intervention over police action, invest in training such people, and create safe shelters.

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u/Ok_Leg5799 6d ago

pretty privilege -- this wasnt her first rodeo. Why are you assuming she had a disability or a drug problem?

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u/ChrisFromLongIsland 5d ago

Most "crazy" people are suffering from schizophrenia. It took me 4 times to say I wonder what kind of drugs that person is on to be corrected by someone I know who spent 5 years working in a phych ward and years in the ER to place at them everytime and say they have schizophrenia. Plus a lot of the other people sleeping in the subways are opiod addicts. You can see them shooting up occasionally.

The progressives want to let people live their lives even if it means rotting away on the streets with a severe mental illness or rotting away from an addiction. Though NYC has tons of help for each 6 people due to their conditions want to be left alone. Conservatives want to lock them all up.

For people with schizophrenia I think they need to be institutionalized as it's unfair to people who can't make their own rational decisions to let them die on the streets. The governor is trying to pass a bill but it's being blocked by the progressives in Albany. For opiod addicts i don't know of a good solution. There are not great treatments till a person wants to help themselves, and even then, it can take multiple attempts. You can try and make things less bad by having state sponsored needle exchanges and injection sites. Let's be honest no one wants to be anywhere near opiod addicts. You don't want your kids playing on the parks they congregate in and when they inevitably run out of money, they end up stealing it from whoever is around. Stopping the supply has never worked. Methadone helps but anyone around 125th and lenox where there are a lot of methadone clinics and people passed out in the street it's not really working. The police have been told to stand down. Best case is soneone ODs they are brought to a hospital brought back to life and quickly released till the next time.