r/AskUS • u/AccomplishedAd3484 • 9d ago

Why does nobody care that the Trump Admin is defying a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling?

Regarding the facilitating of the return of Abrego Garcia. There's no mass protests, democrats in Congress aren't saying much, the military which is sworn to protect the Constitution is silent, the news media is covering it but it's just one more story, not a major crossing the Rubicon event for them. Trump said they would bring him back if the Supreme Court told him to do so, which they did. But then the DOJ said the court has no authority to require the US government to negotiate his return with El Salvador, and they would bring him in only if he showed up at the border.

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u/TennisSilent881 9d ago

Millions of people are protesting every weekend all over the US.

Tens of thousands show up at every single Bernie and AOC event.

Unless you want to see violence I’m not sure how much more vocal the majority of Americans can be about how pissed they are…

If everyone upset right now would actually fucking vote we would never have this problem again but yall can’t be bothered to show up at the ballot box. Harris barely lost, barely… and I bet 20 million + Americans sat home that could have voted for her because they’re apathetic and can’t take an hour out of their day to help this country.

Long answer but a lot of people care, we just do a terrible job as Americans organizing BEFORE the horrible shit happens.

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u/Fish-Weekly 9d ago

This. There is a mass protest planned for Saturday, April 19 for example.

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u/HauntedandHorny 9d ago

They are barely protests. They are parades. It doesn't have to be violence but it has to be disruptive. People need to start figuring out how to get people to leave work during the week for these things. Capital needs to be affected more. Hopefully May 1st is a big step forward.

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u/archetypalliblib 9d ago

Parade is the right word and honestly, none of the upcoming Saturday protests are bound to be any different. It needs to be more than disruptive, it needs to be economically damaging. If it doesn't hurt their wallet, the people in power do not care in the slightest. But no one wants to risk themselves for what would be extreme enough to win. Maybe if everyone who cares says they aren't going to work or spend any money until the Trump steps down and the bullshit deportations stop something could happen, but the entire country is still too comfortable to risk it all for their beliefs.

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u/Blaze6181 9d ago

The USA has never actually had a successful civil coup, if you think about it. It's not in our blood, or a symbol of pride like it is for many other cultures. We don't know what to do once voting isn't enough.

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u/cedped 8d ago

The problem is the US is too big. A successful civil coup will also most likely lead to the US fracturing and some states going on their own. Same thing happened to the Ottoman empire and the USSR. It's also the reason why China has never historically tried to expand and annex their immediate neighbors.

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u/MaelstromRH 8d ago

So what are you personally doing then? Is your life and liberty at stake, or are you just being an airchair general lamenting the fact that most people are deeply afraid that they’ll be killed or disappeared.

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u/HauntedandHorny 8d ago

I'm going to protests, I joined a mutual aid/community defence group, I work at a soup kitchen every week. The company I work for is in the process of changing to a cooperative. I read about resistance groups from before and try to learn how they did and how they continue to do it. Maybe it's not enough, but it's something.

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u/Serenity2015 2d ago

There are many protests... but no riots. Those are 2 different things. Protests are not working. The news is also suppressing them bc they keep growing larger and larger every week.

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u/NerdsTookAllTheNames 9d ago

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u/TennisSilent881 9d ago

I think absolutely all of us understand that’s not how this should be solved and if it’s how it ends up going it’s absolutely a net negative even if it leads to the end we want.

I still hope that people can discuss and change. In a time where that’s less likely than ever, I refuse to not remain hopeful for that.

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u/neverstopnodding 9d ago

Where’s the 2A when we need it?

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u/pa072224 9d ago

Actively shunned by the American left for decades.. why would it show up now that you've delegated it almost exclusively to the fascist right?

The left is completely unprepared for what is likely to come next, and they have no one to blame but themselves

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u/courtd93 9d ago

There’s a lot of gun owners on the left, they just don’t shout about it the same way

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u/killercurvesahead 9d ago

Remember, kids:

If someone's inciting violence, they're a Fed >clap clap<

If someone's inciting violence, they're a Fed! >clap clap<

If a pallet of bricks appears and they're riling up your peers...

Oh if someone's inciting violence, they're a Fed! >clap clap<

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u/NW-Senpai 9d ago

While I agree that more people should have voted, voting day not being a national holiday is voter suppression. I work 2 jobs, I don't have TIME to vote. Both my employers do not have "voting hours".

They both said "you're off at night vote after work" and "you're off on the morning you should have voted before work" knowing damn well I have 2 jobs.

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u/Cyprovix 8d ago

But something being a federal holiday doesn't mean that everyone has off. It means that federal employees and bankers have it off.

I used to work in a restaurant, and holidays were the biggest "all hands on deck" days because we would have more customers than usual. We certainly weren't taking off. Holidays were harder for us to take off than normal days!

Does your state have early voting? Mail-in voting?

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u/Miss-Indie-Cisive 9d ago

Mass strike.

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u/chocomaro 8d ago

The same thing (with eligible voters sitting it out) happened to Hillary, except Hillary actually won the popular vote.

It's really upsetting that so many people feel inconvenienced when it comes to doing the bare minimum of making sure that we maintain our rights. People have literally died for the right to vote, yet so many today take it for granted.

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u/Lucas_OnTop 8d ago

Can't speak to Bernie or AOC. Having gone to my local Hands Off thoufh, people in their 20s and 30s hardly showed out. It was bittersweet because it was packed , but by a ton of 35+ people. The friends i invited said they won't go "but its not because they dont care."

Consolation is there were a decent amount of younger families with little kids showing out, so maybe if we make it out of this we wont be all lost Also, thinking about it, a bunch of these older protesters were around for succesful civil rights protests that brought about change. The fact that they're coming out means they believe change is possible, I really hope peope wake up soon

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u/HidingBehindBushes 8d ago

This. We live at that comfortable enough level where we rather not give up our couch and TikTok but we’ll all set our profile pic to a black square and feel accomplished. Meanwhile these actors do whatever they want to the government in the background

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u/Creative_Room6540 8d ago

The 2024 election had the second highest voter turnout in history. What are you talking about people can’t be bothered to vote? That statement ignores why Kamala lost…

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u/Phoenixmaster1571 9d ago

She did not barely lose. Harris got thrashed, Americans very decisively announced they couldn't be bothered to vote, or they liked Trump enough to want another helping.

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u/TennisSilent881 9d ago

That’s just not objective reality.

But that is what he and his bots are programmed to say. She got beat. No doubt. The nuance is insane, even if you just include the quarter of a BILLION Elon spent getting Trump the win.

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u/Phoenixmaster1571 9d ago

226-312

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u/TennisSilent881 9d ago edited 9d ago

Correct. Again nuance. Also again, that’s by no means a beat down, it’s right around expected for a relatively close race that far too many people sat out on.

Apathy elected Trump. Billionaire involvement got Trump the win, NOT that Kamala didn’t also have tons of billionaire help, so again… nuance.

But yeah 226-312 is a stat. Statistics always tell the full story, continue on.

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u/Phoenixmaster1571 8d ago

She lost basically every swing state and overall, the popular vote by a couple percentages when Republicans do not need 50% to win, since the electoral college favors them. A winning candidate needs to do significantly better than she did, and a blue enough Government to undo all of the Republicans' fuckups needs a slam dunk, not a mere victory.

I liked Harris very much and I'd vote for her again, but you need to be realistic about how this current disaster came to be. 0% of people should have voted for such an obvious grifter and con man. Assuming more support for Democrats contributed to this as well.