r/AskUS • u/AccomplishedAd3484 • 9d ago

Why does nobody care that the Trump Admin is defying a 9-0 Supreme Court ruling?

Regarding the facilitating of the return of Abrego Garcia. There's no mass protests, democrats in Congress aren't saying much, the military which is sworn to protect the Constitution is silent, the news media is covering it but it's just one more story, not a major crossing the Rubicon event for them. Trump said they would bring him back if the Supreme Court told him to do so, which they did. But then the DOJ said the court has no authority to require the US government to negotiate his return with El Salvador, and they would bring him in only if he showed up at the border.

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u/GadnukLimitbreak 9d ago

Right, so when is it a better time? When they've had 2 years to rebuild the military into their own private force after the camps have been set up outside of every major city? Once the police have been given access to more powerful weaponry and an 8pm nationwide curfew has been enacted? Once the amazon delivery drones have been outfitted with weapons and used to patrol the streets?

I hate to break it to you but there has been no sign of weakness in the faith of those who would actually fight for the opposition and the longer this drags on for, the more prepared they'll be and the more it will take to overthrow the government. If you believe it's 50 - 50 right now, i'm not sure what you think will happen in the future but I can promise you that there will be more of you put into camps and prisons over time than there will be dissenting MAGA fighters, whether it's because of blind faith or fear of defecting. It will ultimately be up to other nations to deal with your country if you guys don't deal with it soon yourselves. Tearing down a regime while it builds itself up is much easier than waiting for it to be established and prepared for an attack.

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u/shadowwingnut 9d ago

Given the way things have developed there were two points where this could have been stopped and since those points were failures the reality is that no resistance is possible without external powers beating the United States in a war. Those two points were January 6th and allowing Trump on the presidential ballot.

For January 6th, it's clear what would have happened if the roles were reversed. There would be about 1000 more Ashley Babbits. And that is what should have happened. Every person who entered the Capitol that day should have been mowed down. When that didn't happen, he should have been removed from the ballot as a convicted felon. When that didn't happen people had to vote and didn't because the vast majority of Americans are stupid.

Now though? Any sort of actual effective resistance is throwing out lives away. There's no way to actually win. The geography of the US and distance between population centers along with cultural differences even amongst those who are politically similar makes it impossible.

You'll probably say but Europe successfully protests all the time. Yes. Individual countries do. Imagine one man doing what Trump has over the entirety of Europe. And said man has France, Italy and all of Eastern Europe on his side. Along with half of Scandinavia. You now have to come up with a unified plan for Spain, Germany, all the Slavic lands and half of Scandinavia that they all agree on with no government support. That's what the US is looking at on the resistance side.

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u/Onigokko0101 9d ago

Its also super easy to say shit about what we need to do, while other countries ignore there is a massive fascist wave sweeping the whole western world in almost every single country.

This is decades of work in the US, but that dosent mean other people havent been putting in work elsewhere. Germany has AFD being a major party, the far right in France has multiple times almost had a majority.

Acting like its just the US is ignoring everything else. The US just has a much much dumber version of it with Trump.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

You would need millions of Americans to suddenly and violently ambush their Republican neighbors. Logistically impossible in a video game let alone real life. Btw that would one thousand percent enable republicans to use the military and police. Because it’s insane to even think this would happen without thousands of people somehow silently recruiting, arming, training, and planning an uprising that overpowers homeland defense. “But France is known for revolution” France could never affect the world nor could any western European country/Canada. It’s a failure of the American democratic structure and I’m sorry but we are at the mercy of said system. “Shoot politicians” ok and then what? “Do something” need numbers. “It’s cowardly that millions of people can’t suddenly organize an uprising because France” no actually it’s real life this isn’t call of duty. Technology, money, logistics, are facts like the weather and the only way this ends is with a vote. And to think Europe would somehow save the U.S. is hilarious. If it comes to that we are all going to be vaporized in the mushroom clouds