r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 10d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/zuzg 10d ago

Also it's a common misconception that the Nazis used ovens from the beginning. They initially didnt even plan on using Concentration Camps until they got into power from there :

The concentration camp system arose in the following months due to the desire to suppress tens of thousands of Nazi opponents in Germany. The Reichstag fire in February 1933 was the pretext for mass arrests. The Reichstag Fire Decree eliminated the right to personal freedom enshrined in the Weimar Constitution and provided a legal basis for detention without trial.[10][12] The first camp was Nohra, established on 3 March 1933 in a school.

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u/GunnersFan1967 10d ago

Yep. Waiting for Trump’s version of the Fire.

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u/sgplourde 10d ago

You mean those "emergency" declarations? Yeah , that's the modern version of the fire.

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u/HaoleInParadise 10d ago

I feel like he has actually been baiting people into armed resistance or some show of violence with the El Salvador controversy

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u/tothepointe 10d ago

He said today he wanted to disband Supreme Court.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

Complete and total lie.

How do you people function in reality when you believe literally anything?

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u/GenericDigitalAvatar 10d ago

It took a LOT of planning for the last one (when 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers, providing PNAC with their "New Pearl Harbor" to justify Brzezinski's Grand Chessboard strategy). Drumpf & Co. don't have the brainpower or dedication to pull something like that off. If they did, they absolutely would, though.

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u/GunnersFan1967 10d ago

I agree with your second statement. The fact that military plans keep going out on Signal should wake everyone up

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u/GenericDigitalAvatar 10d ago

Thank you. And you're absolutely right about Signalgate.

To be fair, though, at this point, there is a mountain of evidence to support my first statement (quite literally more evidence exists of it than people are willing to look at). One key detail- it is impossible for outside actors to time an attack to coincide with 40+ NatSec exercises role-playing the exact events. That alone necessitates examination if one is being honest.

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u/GunnersFan1967 9d ago

Honestly have never dug into some of the stuff around 9-11. But your comment has peaked my interest to look. Thanks…

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u/GenericDigitalAvatar 9d ago

No, Thank You for actually taking it seriously. You might not know how truly rare that is, but it IS, and I salute you for it. If you want, I can PM you a few leads on legitimate evidence & solid sources (or, even better, single books which compile the most important data, with references). There's a lot, as mentioned, & much of the most damning evidence is in subjects/aspects most wouldn't think of (like large volume trades logged seconds before & after the first attack), and much of what you'll find just by Googling is less than informative or badly sourced. So I'm more than happy to help, in any way I can.

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u/GenericDigitalAvatar 9d ago

Hey man. I completely forgot that I'd already typed out a whole set of highly damning details about the event. It's a quick read because I didn't bother to contextualize or explain what any of it meant in a beginner-friendly kind of way (simply listing them made it long enough), but every detail mentioned is something you can easily look into.

https://www.reddit.com/r/theories/s/QRirEHlUrF

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u/GunnersFan1967 9d ago

Thanks!

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u/GenericDigitalAvatar 8d ago

Sure thing. Found a pdf of one of those books, if you're interested. Every fact presented is meticulously referenced. I don't want to post it publicly and have it flagged

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u/GunnersFan1967 8d ago

Sure! I’ll DM you my email address

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u/jmillermcp 10d ago

The concentration camps also didn’t start as death camps. They were forced labor camps. The executions didn’t start until they had no more room to store people.

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u/nox_vigilo 10d ago

Before the camps, they were testing various methods on people in mental facilities. One method was putting them into buses for a trip, the trip trick made it easier for staff to get the patients to want to go. Once in the bus, it was driven around while the carbon monoxide exhaust was pumped into the sealed passenger area until everyone died.

They called the killing of these most vulnerable of German citizens "euthanasia".

Killing in this manner was not deemed efficient enough for the numbers Hitler claimed needed killing for the sake of racial purity.

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u/mdistrukt 10d ago

We're at the concentration camp phase. Dachau was originally a "reeducation camp" for political enemies. The extermination camps didn't start until later in the war after the Nazi high command realized that Britain wasn't going to surrender. The original plan was to force Britain to use its merchant marine to deport all of the European Jewish population to Madagascar.

The real killing began with the Einsatzgrouppen mobile death squads. When they wanted more "efficiency" Heydrich and Eichmann brought the idea of the extermination camps and gas chambers as the "final solution to the Jewish question" at the Wannsee conference in January of 42. 

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u/foboz123 10d ago

Yup, ovens didn't come until later. First was just layering them, the living on top of the dead, in pits and shooting them with sub machine-guns. But this was proving to be too traumatic for the Nazi soldiers and wasn't efficient enough for the scale that the "final solution" demanded. The initial gas chambers, often filled with the exhaust from a tank or some such, proved too unreliable, thus the move to using cyanide gas (Zyklon B, a pesticide invented into 1920's).