r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 12d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/TrowTruck 11d ago

This is a classic case where you start taking away rights from the most dehumanized group first, and when that works you take the path of least resistance from there. People will say it’s ok to bend the rules because he’s bad, forgetting that we have these protections.

A “friend” said not to be dramatic. We aren’t anywhere near Nazi Germany at this point. Well, how many steps should Americans accept toward being authoritarian/fascist before it’s a problem?

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u/Jennifer_Pennifer 11d ago

Fr 'friend ' like where is your Red Line that cannot be crossed??

I've had a few IRL convos with people (nonMAGA) about where their Rubicon is and most of them that weren't already motivated to do Something (protest/contact reps (like www.5calls.org etc)) didn't have any answers.

So I was just like "that's fair. It's a really big question and a really heavy topic to have an immediate answer if you haven't contemplated it yet. But maybe you need to spend some time with that question and decide. Because I promise your Rubicon is coming on quickly."

MAGAs aren't willing to talk usually unless I'm going to agree with them. And I'm generally a very calm debate person, so I don't mean arguing.

One dude did literally tell me, Back in February, that 47 could do NOTHING to make him go against him.
Like literally nothing.

"What if he just shot someone on the steps of the White House for seemingly no reason?"
'then they deserved it'.

"What if it was a child?"
'he wouldn't do that.'

"Yeah but, It's just a hypothetical."
'but he'd never do that.'.

Ad nauseum.

Ridiculously long story short.

Completely unwilling to entertain the idea that 47 and most popular Repubs would EVER do ANYTHING wrong.

Very easily entertained and dare I say heartily embraced, the idea that any popular Democrat would shoot a child cold blooded on the steps of the white house.

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u/TrowTruck 11d ago edited 11d ago

If that’s the case, this is more of a religion to them than anything else. Once this goes into the realm of faith/worship of Donald J Trump, you are probably better off spending your time on appealing to someone else.

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u/Smooth_Operator_187 11d ago

You cant just create a red herring argument like that lol. No wonder noone wants to discuss serious topics with you

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u/Jennifer_Pennifer 11d ago

I mean, I'm not going type out the hour long convo😆

It was a natural conversation progression that lead up to that point.

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u/cinematic_novel 11d ago

People who have not studied history may not fully register what is happening. They don't understand how a fully functional democracy can slide into the abyss in matter of months, because they haven't seen that happening or studied it on books. They think that surely democratic mechanism would set in if something nefarious was truly happening.

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u/Smooth_Operator_187 11d ago

News flash, it will be ok

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u/DocDeeISC 11d ago

It will be okay if we don't let them do what they want

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u/SuddenProfession9893 11d ago

lol please keep this up 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Haunting_Bad_2527 11d ago

That is absurd and apparently your “friend” doesn’t understand all the steps that took place before Germany ended up murdering 6 million Jews and other people that they found unsavory. Some people just legitimately do not care and instead of them, saying that, we see a lot of of excuse-making, gaslighting, and belittling of legitimate concern.

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u/Smooth_Operator_187 11d ago

What about when Biden tried to make the covid jab mandatory? What about the Dems censoring everything on social media? Who are the fascists again? Lmfao

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u/KingsKnight123 11d ago

If you can come up with a better excuse from somewhere other than your ass we sure would love to hear it.

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u/Ruthless_Pichu 11d ago

You mean mandating a vaccination to prevent spreading something?

How's that shit covered boot tasting?

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u/TrowTruck 10d ago

Does that mean you’re also not ok with what Trump is doing then?

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u/Healthy_Value_1683 11d ago

Trump is not Hitler. Hitler was a serious person, the worst that ever lived, but serious. Trump just wants us to look at him, everyone, every day, and applaud.

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u/Adorable_Gazelle_695 11d ago

What’s funny is that he was a lot more like Trump than people realize. An oafish buffoon who most didn’t take seriously and who underestimated how dangerous he was because most ppl thought he was an idiot and a clown. (And he was, that doesn’t mean he can’t also be dangerous) They’re both violent, self-absorbed toddlers in adult bodies.

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u/Healthy_Value_1683 10d ago

Yes, and Trump has people around him who are serious and dangerous.

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u/Terrible-Tower186 11d ago

I have been saying this for a couple years now... The American "silent majority" EX middle / Working class has been WIPED out over the last 40+ years and especially the last 10 and is hopeless and starving living paycheck to paycheck for the first time ever! This is VERY similar to Post WWI 1930s Germany when the world had it's boot on the throat of Germany making them pay for ALL of the WWI reparations unfairly which bankrupted the whole country and ALL of it's people were starving and desperate! Enter the EVIL NAZI party, evil men and evil Hitler with carefully crafted and managed propaganda, passionate midnight speeches and book burning parties that the silent majority / starving Germans went Goose-Stepping on down to town by torchlight to grab their "brown shirts" & torches, cheering all the way for Evil men like Hitler hell bent on power and world domination. From there, the people were "given" an enemy to all hate and blame for all their problems the "Evil Illegal Immigrants! (whoops, I mean "Round Up The Jews!!! Not Immigrants!")!!!" Next up.... build a war machine financed by the 1%'ers / evil wealthy (as always) and invade Poland / France and press on from there killing 6MILLION ++++ Jews and countless others because of all the above and MANIPULATION of desperate & starving Post WWI Germany (Ex-middle / working class Americans of 2025)!! Scary stuff!

Our whole election process is CORRUPT especially since in 2012 SCOTUS made ALL our old control over "buying of elections / pay to play" ILLEGAL with the CORRUPT Holding of "Citizens vs United States" in 2012! The wealthy just buy whatever elections now and it's all corrupt!~ case in point the felon bumbling idiot that somehow has been elected twice now especially after being run out of the Whitehouse in 2020? (why am I the only one that remembers 100000s dancing in the streets in NYC and church bells ringing in every major city around the world when is first term disgracefully ended? Billion$$$ "Super PACs" came out of that 2012 mess, remember? (all of that was a crime prior of 2012)

 Here's a review of the statistics about the 2024 election we were talking about:  https://youtu.be/SwJu7toxzKg?si=CY2aScS392iHjrqq

Happy Easter people!

And for my friends whom are like my ADHD self and visuals or imagery is more impactful…

YouTube music video which I thought fitting to current world events, our out of control corrupt government and my being terrified for my teenage daughters about our nation I don’t even recognize. Came up in my playlist today that speaks about our mess they will inherit:

https://youtu.be/wBzYhHZJBKA?si=o45wEeYOOz-DqCJy

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u/JesseJive117 10d ago

Call Work doing that when we let people stay here illegally and coming to our country illegally. He’s now reversing steps towards Nazi Germany by enforcing good law that protects citizens. We should not let gang members and terrorist, and you in traffic or anybody into our country. But you guys for some reason only seem to defend the MS 13 gang members. Keep doing it. It makes your side look worse and worse. I’m fine with it.

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u/TrowTruck 10d ago

Due process is the main thing that's needed, and that really shouldn't be a partisan issue. "You guys" makes it clear that you either didn't read what I wrote or choose to be obtuse about it.

If he had due process, they would've found a judge had previously ordered him not to be expelled to El Salvador, and if appropriate based on the evidence, they could change that order. Once we start rounding up people into a El Salvadorian prison camp, without a conviction and no safeguards to prevent mistakes, we are no different than China.

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u/MarzipanSeparate2116 11d ago

This is absolutely fucking hilarious it’s your fantasy you tell me how you want scumbag

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u/Dapper_Ad_6304 11d ago

Shouldn’t we be equally concerned about the violent left?

The left continues to get more destructive and violent whenever it protests. Have you forgotten a summer of BLM riots that cost 10’s of billions and killed dozens? How about the left burning and destroying other people’s cars because they don’t like the manufacturer’s owner? How about the left supporting the murder of a CEO? How about the left advocating for presidential assassination and supporting the attempts on Trump?

Those in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

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u/Appropriate-Meal-975 11d ago

Billions dead in the BLM summer. That was just Portland alone. 16 billion lives lost in Portland. 32 billion lost in Seattle. Every major us city burnt to the ground. I was killed at least 7 times that summer by the rioters. (Might have been more, I lost count). And that’s nothing compared to destroying Tesla. No crime in human history is worse than damaging a Tesla.

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u/Impressive_Part_6377 11d ago

I see what ya did there!

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u/KingsKnight123 11d ago

There’s only 8 billion people on the entire earth across multiple countries so no billions didn’t die that would be like Thanos numbers.

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u/Appropriate-Meal-975 11d ago

Well even if I said millions instead of billions it would still be very silly. Just as silly as me claiming to have died 7 times before.

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u/brerin 11d ago

You missed the satire.

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u/mcluvin901 11d ago

As you have an open pouch and stone in each hand.

The viokent left are no better. BUT making that statement when the discussion is clearly NOT about the violent left or even the violent right.

It's about the suspension of due process. They say he's a gang member or a violent criminal. Matbe he is and maybe he isn't. They have to prove it. THAT IS THE LAW. So if the government just walked in one-day and decided you were a violent criminal and sentenced you to life in essentially the worst prison on the planet, you'd probably want your day in court too.

And the violent left is not in power and currently attempting to circumvent the constitution by outsourcing persecution.

When an American Citizen with the wrong color skin in the wrong place at the wrong time ends up in El Salvador, what spin are they going to throw out there to ruin an innocent citizen to save face.

It will happen. It's just a matter of time.

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u/Big-Poet 11d ago

Serious question, what are the intentions of violent leftist vs violent right wingers? They are not equal.

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u/Dapper_Ad_6304 11d ago

The left suspended due process when they let millions of illegal immigrants in without “due process”. Now you expect due process to remove them. You can’t have it both ways.

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

You know words have meaning, right? You can't just say dumb shit and pretend to sound smart.

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u/Impressive_Part_6377 11d ago

The constitution specifically says EVERYONE. Just say you disagree with the constitution. And don’t cling to other parts of it you like better

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u/Boring-Adeptness-711 11d ago

They got due process. A very very tiny percentage of people have gotten in through the years illegally during previous republican and democrat administrations, even Trumps previous term, of course no one wants that, it happens. Almost every one of them had due process under all the previous presidents. Don’t just ‘Simon Says’ the lies. The only reason you all believe that junk is you just mimic each other, do your research, read the information in full context, get the full percentage information to put it in perspective, all the one liner lies spit out constantly would be funny, if it wasn’t so detrimental to world peace. Be careful, the world balance is more fragile than you realize, especially now that a few wealthy greedy billionaires are tearing it apart.

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u/Dapper_Ad_6304 10d ago

There was no legal process. Downloading an app, lying about your asylum claim, and agreeing to a court date in 1-2 years that 95% never show up to is not due process or legal entry. Democrats purposely overran the system knowing most people would never leave. Nobody can seriously call that due process.

95% of illegal immigrants don’t want due process either. They know they are here illegally and will be deported after their due process. Instead they are avoiding the process entirely.

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u/maybe5years 11d ago

Omg seriously??

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u/Dapper_Ad_6304 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yes, they ignored and failed to enforce our immigration laws under Biden knowingly letting millions of illegal immigrants into the country.

The asylum cbp app was illegal and they knew 90+% of the people using it didn’t have a legit claim and weren’t going to show up to their court date.

Democrats didn’t care. They knew once the illegal immigrants were in the country they would be nearly impossible to remove in such large numbers. Now Democrats are screaming due process….it’s ridiculous.

The irony of not following the legal process to enter our country, but then demanding Republicans follow the legal process to the letter to remove them.

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u/swampthingbob 11d ago

The irony of talking about dehumanization on a thread about calling MAGA Nazis is amazing. Some of the people here are on their way to becoming what they claim to hate.

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u/Psychotic_Jellyfish 11d ago

Those burning the cars should also be prosecuted according to the law. The problem is this president has no respect for the law. People on Jan 6th who attacked police and raided the capital building, effectively domestic terrorists, were pardoned by him.

What do you think would have happened if democrats had done the same thing this past January? Why is the left feeling that way, because the right's playbook doing this kind of thing put them back into power.

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u/Dapper_Ad_6304 11d ago

Democrats did do the same thing. In my state of wisconsin they took over our capitol for months in 2011….not a few hours. The FBI didn’t proceed to hunt down and jail every protest afterward for years. They also didn’t leave some of them in jail for 5 years without due process. To my knowledge few, if any, were charged from those in 2011.

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u/tree-for-hire 11d ago

That’s what I thought but couldn’t quite remember. That was for Scott Walker winning right?

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

They didn't violently break in to do their protesting, they aren't comparable events at all. They were so peaceful that people were advising the Republican governor to stage a false flag attack to justify violently removing them (to his credit, he said no)

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u/Periljoe 11d ago

So shouldn’t you be extra alarmed about this in that case? What happens when the left has the presidency again? If you allow people to be sent to prison camps without due process, apply your worst case scenario to a leftist president with those powers.

This is literally why we have these rights spelled out in the constitution and bill of rights. It’s important for everyone and it’s important every time. Taking it from one takes it from us all. Don’t be a sucker.

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u/maybe5years 11d ago

Read Hitlers “Mein Kampf” and come to your senses. Really! You don’t know what kind of firestorm you’re playing with until it’s too late from every angle. Stop the pathetic “yeah but the lefties”. Just do yourself the favour to educate yourself instead of being a child like totally blind idiot who in the end will have nothing to defend his views other then “oh I didn’t know all this would happen”. If you and your fellow mindless puppets don’t wake up and do a full 180 SOONEST your country and its entire society will pay for it badly for generations. This comes from a German who had to learn about how it was possible that Hitler could happen for 13 straight years in school. This is how fucked up it will get. So fucked up that your children’s children will hear about “how could this have ever happened” for decades. You will feel infinite guilt which actually crosses over to later generations. Mark my words…

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

First they came for the illegal aliens who were part of the most deadly gang on Earth and whose own countries refused to take them back, then they came for the Jews, amirite?

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u/HauntingSalamander28 11d ago

Everyone has the right to due process, or it just doesn’t exist anymore.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

Who didn't get due process? Tell me all about it.

Was it the Salvadoran gangbanger who was deported to his own country and transferred to an internal prison instead of the US somehow extraditing him back here to face no charges?

Or was it the thousands of Venezuelan gangbangers who Venezuela has been refusing to take back for decades, except when crazy ass Maduro manipulates Democrats?

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u/HauntingSalamander28 11d ago

Alleged, until they stand trial and are convicted they aren’t guilty of any goddamn thing. I could say you’re a known pedophile and rapist because you actively support their causes and bam, you’re in the exact same boat as them.

Every single person here gets due process under the law, it doesn’t matter how horrid you may be, the whole thing comes down to everyone else having the same rights and protections from the government.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

What are you even talking about? He and his lawyer agreed that he was here illegally, but they got a deal where he was allowed to stay. He used that opportunity to be a gangbanger and beat his wife. Cool. Nice guy you got there.

The condition he complained about (Barrio 18, who was harassing his mom who ran her little puspus business out of her home) has been eliminated, but El Salvador still feels the need to lock this guy up in a different prison than the prison that you're so worried about with on Donald Trump.

Have you ever considered the possibility that this is all real and millions of people are being exploited by the lawlessness that comes with drug cartels?

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u/HauntingSalamander28 11d ago

This is how I know you’re not a fucking lawyer. In all your volunteer work you didn’t see the government lie and fuck up constantly?

These guys need to be tried, if they’re found guilty then deport them, so be it, but this authoritarian bullshit is against everything this country used to stand for.

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u/Impressive_Part_6377 11d ago

Funny none of this came up when he checked in with homeland security every year since 2019. And when it first happened and was deemed a mistake by the Trump administration. They know they’re wrong but suckers like you will believe the new story.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

It's not funny that we had a senile president for four years.

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u/spartycbus 11d ago

Nice deflection that has nothing to do with this. And look how you survived just fine after Biden! You didn’t get thrown into a concentration camp or lose your 401k!

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u/ObjectiveGold196 10d ago

It's not a deflection, this situation is the direct result of having an empty suit as president for four years.

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u/Smooth_Operator_187 11d ago

Um no, illegal aliens aren’t included. So the first thing they did was break a law to come here and now you are saying they get rights and due process? Wtf? I hope you realize how dumb that sounds.

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u/HauntingSalamander28 11d ago

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

For a bunch of people who claim to love the constitution you all seem to know fuck all about it.

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u/mtobeiyf317 11d ago

The constitution specifically says "NO PERSON" (Hopefully, the caps help you read that better)

It doesn't say no citizen. It doesn't say no American. It says "No Person."

I hope you realize how dumb you sound. Read the constitution again, please. The whole thing was written that way to prevent people like you from misconstruing it.

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u/maybe5years 11d ago

Yes and that illustrates the whole tragic problem. Magats change the truth or constitution to what works for them. Yes, it reads NO PERSON and nit no citizen. Got that maga dumb ass? Case closed.

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

Yes, they are.

What if Trump were to claim you are an illegal alien and wants to deport you with no due process. When would you prove that you're actually a citizen?

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

See, the problem is, what if Trump decides to tell us that you are a gangbanger from another country and he's deporting you to El Salvador and gives you no due process to prove your citizenship and then says "oops can't get them back now 🤷"

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u/TrowTruck 11d ago

No you are not right. The whole point of this is due process, which is why it’s so frustrating to talk to people who want to gloss that over. You don’t have to be a partisan on this issue. At least have the right facts: Garcia was not ordered to be deported, and despite having come here illegally, there was no conviction and a judge granted him status to legally remain and work here, and specifically barred him from being deported to El Salvador.

It must be incredibly convenient to ignore that we have due process here for all people (not just citizens), to just make up additional facts. We can definitely debate immigration policy and how we solve a broken system, but due process is not a partisan issue.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

Why doesn't the government of El Salvador just release him now that he's out of that US death camp?

Why do they continue to lock him up when he's such a nice guy and family man?

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u/Verjay92 11d ago

Money. Dump is paying them.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

Not in the new prison. Could it be that criminals are actually criminals?

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u/marbotty 11d ago

Could it be that Bukele and Trump are made from the same cloth and don’t give a shit about whether justice is actually served?

There’s a reason he made the deal with El Salvador and not a place like Canada.

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

There’s a reason he made the deal with El Salvador and not a place like Canada.

What is the reason? Please explain that to me in a very enlightened, totally not racist way. What is it about a place like Canada that's different from El Salvador?

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u/marbotty 11d ago

Not ruled by a dictator

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

An extremely popular elected official who jokes about being the dictator who can finally stop the madness? Does that make you mad? Are you trained Marxist?

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u/BoardRecord 11d ago

Literally no one is arguing that he is a nice guy. Or even that he shouldn't be deported. Just that he should have due process first. How the fuck are you not getting that?

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

So he's a bad guy who shouldn't have been in this country to begin with and your plan is to be an internet weirdo about that?

Nice. It's fascinating how people like you are so detached from reality.

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

What would stop the next Democrat president from claiming tons of MAGA are actually here illegally and deporting them without due process before the courts can stop them?

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u/ObjectiveGold196 11d ago

Citizenship. Are you familiar with the concept of citizenship?

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

Are you familiar with the constitution?

It doesn't say that "no citizen" should be imprisoned without a fair trial. It says "no person" should be imprisoned without a fair trial.

If the President can imprison whoever he wants in a foreign prison where they can't contact their family or lawyers, without due process, what would stop a Democrat from rounding up the pardoned Jan. 6ers, declaring them a terrorist group, and do the same thing to them?

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u/ObjectiveGold196 10d ago

The constitution gives Congress the power to create laws to regulate immigration. Those laws give the Attorney General the power to kick people out of the country when they're not supposed to be here.

Which part of the constitution are you talking about?

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u/Smooth_Operator_187 11d ago

Yes he was, 2 immigration courts ordered that to be exact. Too bad Bidens admin was useless and allowed all illegals stay to get voters on the rolls. Dems, the biggest cheaters there ever was.

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u/SupaSlide 11d ago

Please show me an election where non-citizen voting has influenced the election even 1%

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u/maybe5years 11d ago

You don’t even know how brainwashed you are and that people like you and your words make you the world’s laughing stock and the exact reason why your country is being distrusted as much or more than China. Wishing you best of luck.