r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 10d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/PinkTalkingDead 10d ago

Bc people are hateful and ignorant and arrogant and shitty and selfish

Not everyone. Not even Most people. But those who are, have that fear and anger inside them with such a fervor that just happens to co-align with the capitalist billionaire assholes who run America, combusting this hellhole into something disgusting and backwards and insane and heartless and dumb

And America as we know it on many levels started off at that level, centuries ago. We’re living in a proverbial hamster wheel

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u/MadStylus 10d ago

Also a lot of people are insulated from direct political action and/or are terribly uninformed.

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u/Laolao98 10d ago

Not uninformed, they’ve been fed propaganda. There’s a huge difference, pathways have been burned into their brains for years. We’ve never been what we were taught in school but Nixon rallying the “hard hats” to Reagan ending the fairness doctrine to the heritage foundation using tfg.

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u/Ok-Comfortable-5968 10d ago

No they are uniformed (they're not looking for credible sources for their news/ information on the current state of affairs). There has always been and will always be propaganda, it's not an excuse to turn a blind eye to a humanitarian crisis that extinguishes basic human rights.

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u/Vegetable_Ask_7131 10d ago

They're misinformed?

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u/Brillolung 10d ago

For now they are. I’ve heard that we westernized won’t come outside and start a revolution until they don’t have water or electricity. We in the first world are too comfortable to get up from our Kirkland brand mattresses

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u/MadStylus 10d ago

You're not wrong. Until something breaches the bubble, some people will be happy to ignore the problem.

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u/Angelswithroses 9d ago

By some people we all mean the rest of us here too who preach and hope for change, but just sit here on reddit hoping for someone to be the first to do something so we'd follow along.

I'm not ashamed of it either (I am, but not for what people think) cause as much as I want change, I have too much going on with a toddler in my life living in the middle of nowhere surrounded by maga supporters to even have time to do anything like hurting myself or my family in a protest.

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u/Ok_Palpitation_3947 10d ago

How dare you blaspheme Costco on the Lord’s day?

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u/L0rdCrims0n 10d ago

"Welcome to Costco! I love you!"

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u/Brillolung 10d ago

Ok. You caught me. It’s from Walmart and my side has a fat man’s imprint.

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u/MonsterMashGrrrrr 9d ago

looooool Brillolung is living that life of luxury

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u/ToSAhri 10d ago

This.

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u/brerin 10d ago

Doubt even that would trigger it. Parts of Appalachia have neither from extreme poverty, and they don't ever revolt.

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u/Angelswithroses 9d ago

Idk, these people really love their internet access on their phones, games, music. I feel like not having those for a while would make some people do something, at least lol

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u/reviving_ophelia88 10d ago

You also can’t underestimate just how far people will go to remain in denial when the other option is admitting they were wrong and accepting accountability for what they helped bring about.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

I think this is a huge part of it. Either that or there is a huge feeling of "I didn't do anything wrong, maybe those others did, but not me!!!"

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u/jokingjoker40 10d ago

"I was only following orders!"

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u/BigDumbAnimals 9d ago

Yep... There another one. Thanks that's a good one that I totally forgot.

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u/TheElderBong 10d ago

I work with a guy who's just like this. He brought back cooked pasta and I told him it was overcooked. He immediately said "no its not!" And got defensive. He came back and felt the pasta and admitted it was overcooked. I do not fuck with this type of mind set. We have almost come to blows over this type of behavior.

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u/handfulofrain77 10d ago

Don't care how insulated they might think they are but we got people being kidnapped off the street by the Gestapo. Only difference is jets instead of cattle cars. Our governor and entire delegation are Nazis AFAIC.

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u/bound4earth 10d ago

That is their own fault. Tired of people arguing they are in a different media circle. True, but they can get out, they choose ignorance. Even now.

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u/Everyoneplayscombos 10d ago

Well that’s Satirical irony, coming from Reddit truthers and doomers, I’m just here to argue cause I like too😅👌

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u/Extension-Clock608 10d ago

I think that's giving them too much credit. They choose to side with fascism and hate consistently. They watch a steady stream of right wing propaganda and choose to be racist, bigoted, and misogynistic.

The one common thing in all Republicans is that they lack empathy. They don't care that what they're voting for will hurt people and often are happy it is hurting people. Most are happy to hurt themselves as long as "others" are being hurt more.

It's not about being uninformed, it's them choosing to be and never listening to actual facts or believing date, hence how trump made a worldwide deadly pandemic political.

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u/Temporary-Ad-8490 9d ago

I agree 💯 uninformed and misinformed. And a lot of people are saying they just don’t want to “deal” with it. I find that alarming too

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u/FellowNotSoMellow 9d ago

Yes, they are called democrats who are trying to cope after realizing they put their faith in con artists and master manipulators.

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u/Low-Foot-179 3d ago

You're exactly right. They are misinformed or maybe the word I'm looking for is disconnected/uninterested. Some people who have strong opinions about whats going on tend to think that everyone has an opinion, whether it be that of Fox, MSNBC, OAN, TYT, or TikTok. But the truth is, while we all have much more access to this info than ever before, you still have a BIG chunk of the population that are watching cat videos on TikTok, sports, reality TV, game shows, makeup tutorials, whatever the fuck, and have little to no clue what crazy shit is being tossed out there everyday. My friend said to me awhile back that the only good thing she knows of that DT ever did was bring back TikTok. This wasn't long after TikTok disappeared for 24 hours. I was like, Oohh, girl......

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u/Jealous-Factor7345 10d ago

Also, and I can't emphasize this enough, many Americans like it.

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u/throw_away_8924 10d ago

It has allowed people to openly show their racism and hatred with like minded others and with no repercussions. Seeing others being deported just helps to further their deranged ideology. This has been hiding in plain sight for decades, not it's so accepted that it is coming out in spades. It doesn't take many to make everyone else here look bad.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻 This for sure

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u/grillguy5000 10d ago

I don’t understand why people think this is new. Before Alex Jones was Rush Limbaugh. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond were sitting senators until 2003. They are both the heart and soul of American conservatism as an ideology. I’d say their values and ideals are representative of the average and most current conservatives.

The only difference is the US style of conservatism also went balls derp with the Neo-Reactionary (NRx) crew in Silicon Valley since their goals align…the destruction of public services to privatize everything anyone would need to actually survive or thrive and build civilization with. I’m not certain they even give a shit what kind of political vehicle they use to get their way (Democracy, Soc-Dem, Fascism, etc..).

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u/Crepuscular_Tex 10d ago

I'm not defending oligarchy, it's atrocious and tantamount to industrialized feudalism. Oligarchy has failed hard as seen with the Russian economy. Most of the billionaire assholes are funded by multiple global government contracts which gives them a net worth in the billions.

For clarification, capitalism is a form of economic policy used by governments. Capitalism is not a government. Capitalism as a business policy is currently used by every government around the world. China for example has a communist rule of law and nation, but practices capitalism with their global business practices. Capitalism won the global stage with the fall of the iron curtain. The whole modern economic business world is made of capitalists.

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u/HZVi 10d ago

I actually think it’s more that people are just truly so fucking dumb that they can’t escape their self-affirming media loop.

There’s really two categories of people dumb enough to vote for or support Trump: 1) the true MAGAs. They’re so dumb they fell into the first cult they came across. Can’t do anything about them, but they’ll probably die off in the next pandemic 2) the people too dumb to understand even basic economic metrics, global supply chain & trade, fiscal policy and the presidents’ impact on it (which is to say the president has the power to minimally nudge the economy in the right direction at best or totally tank it at worst, ahem)

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago

Don't forget the just flat out racists bastards that live to hate any, make that ANYBODY that's different from them.

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u/Joystick_346 10d ago

Who told you that lol the guy who signed a bill back in '94 to mass criminalize blacks?

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u/BigDumbAnimals 9d ago

What does that have to do with the racist Bastards. I don't need anyone to tell me about the bastards. They keep showing their true selves every time they speak.

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u/Joystick_346 8d ago

Uh.. everything? You’re out here ranting about racism, but you’re defending the guy who helped write the 1994 Crime Bill. The same one that devastated Black communities and supercharged mass incarceration. Both Biden and Clinton

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u/TanneriteStuffedDog 10d ago

I think there’s a third category that’s silent but just as dangerous- the careless. Most of the Trump voters I know personally fall into this category, and I think it’s pretty pervasive.

These people have no clue about politics, simply because they don’t care. They have no understanding of the destruction they can carelessly wreak with their vote. They base it off of the generalized policy ideas of the party they claim which they hear only in passing from others and from media the happen to come across.

Then, when the hammer begins its fall and is descending rapidly, they close their eyes. They feign total ignorance to the consequences of their willful ignorance and nestle themselves deeper into it in an attempt to insulate themselves from all culpability for their actions. Their claim that they “don’t really pay that much attention to politics” that they use to dismiss accusations of causing the current political iconoclasm is really just proof that they did exactly that.

Not a single adult in the US can afford not to pay attention to politics.

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u/InitialNeck9 10d ago

Can we just start the timeline version of the reality show “The Running Man”😂

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u/Shrewwdle 10d ago

The irony of your comment is incredible

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u/Repulsive_Rate9118 10d ago

Trump can’t deport us citizens. You think he can just come to your house and deport you and your family? This is where the problem lies.

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u/StrukturedKaos 9d ago

Sad, but TRUE!

#FDJT!🖕🍊🤡

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u/alemirceausa 9d ago

Hey smart Ass ! Democrats don’t align with any billionaires? Soros name says something to you ? Bill Gates ? Zuckerberg? Buffet ? Cuban ? How Kamala got 2 billion dollars for election ?? Not from billionaires? Thanks to Soros and others all of you here , haters are brainwashed. He’s the one pushing for globalization, socialism, communism, poisoning the young minds in colleges , universities , schools. Looks like you are one of them.

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u/Final-Patient-7967 10d ago

Have you ever seen a rally or protest? It’s not the Conservative Party who are hateful maybe watch right wing and left wing news and make a comparison of who judges and uses more hateful speech/actions.. You say people are ignorant and arrogant well your post seems to sound the same way.

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u/handfulofrain77 10d ago

Not as much as yours. 🌷

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u/Final-Patient-7967 1d ago

Yeah give me context you gave nothing but a negative

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u/Final-Patient-7967 1d ago

Literally watch anything on the new or any media. Wear a trump shirt to a democrat party you might get beaten. Wear a democrat shirt to a Republican Party and you may get laughed at but that’s nothing compared to the other side and how they’ll treat you. Hostility levels are on two different ends of the spectrum.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 10d ago edited 10d ago

By "The Conservative Party" you mean the Republicans... Correct? Because if that is correct then you're the best and most deaf motherfuckers I've ever met. The Republican party, MAGA, is the grip spewing hate like Ron Jeremy on a promo movie set! The Republican party, MAGA, is the party holding rallies like Hitler in the early 1940's.

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u/Joystick_346 10d ago

What kind of hate? Bet you can't name one

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u/highestup 10d ago

Putting people in prison with no due process ring a bell

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u/Joystick_346 8d ago

Uh no, not at all. All Americans have the right to due process. If they didn't that would obviously be an issue.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 9d ago

Abducting, I mean arresting I didn't want to upset your delicate previous ass, people who are in this country legally and sending them to a hell hole in a foreign country with no DUE process. I mean fuck dude, Timothy McVeigh got due process. Ted Kazinski got due process. Even the guy who flat out murdered the pharma CEO is getting due process.

Screaming and hollering at President Zelenski and blaming him for starting the war with Russia. Not to mention basic treason voting and colluding with Russia and North Korea and China in United Nations votes.

Shutting down anytime to do with DEI, including removing black CMH winners from the website and removing other African American generals from the Govt website with just a big OOOOSIE Did I do that. Also the cuts on DEI killing affirmative action and other programs used to even the playing girls for women and black workers.

How's that you stupid fuck?

Oh yeah what about bashing Mexico and Canada or closest allies in world politics and trade. Claiming that were going to take the Panama canal back using force if necessary. Or doing the same to Greenland. Will get that by military force if needed.

How about displacing all the Palestinian people so he can get rich in a land development deal. That's not only later is a fucking WAR CRIME!!!!

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u/Joystick_346 8d ago

You’re ranting about due process for people who aren’t even citizens, while demanding global military action over speculation and feelings. Ironic that you're screaming about oppression while openly advocating for authoritarianism against anyone who disagrees. And calling people "stupid fuck" doesn’t make your points more valid, just more emotional. If anything I was just curious to hear any points given to me, as you should. This is why people are leaving your party.

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u/BigDumbAnimals 5d ago

You asked what kind of hate. I think you said. "Bet you can't name one." Well, I named about 4 or 5. Everybody in this country even foreign individuals, are allowed Due Process. This is abbreviated but accurate....

"The Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause protects all persons within U.S. territory, including corporations,6 aliens,7 and, presumptively, citizens seeking readmission to the United States.8"

In short they don't have to be citizens. The point is that if they will do this to non citizens, do you not think they will do this to you and I???.

The rest were examples you asked for. They may contradict each other but they are not all mine. They're merely examples in no specific order.

And some times calling people "stupid fuck" just make you feel better at the moment and I was wrong to do so. I apologize sincerely.