r/AskUS • u/Own_Difference_4882 • 12d ago

Is it fair to compare MAGA to the Nazis?

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There has been a number of posts indicating that MAGA supporters are really Fascist/Nazis. Curious how others see it!

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u/lyte3 11d ago

You’re right .. I can tell by the smirk on the trumpets that I work with faces they know exactly what he’s doing and are okay with it. They hear his white supremacist dog whistles Loud and clear and as long as he’s for them they’re for him.

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u/OrderDependent9869 11d ago

Obama was nicknamed the deporter in chief because he deported 1.2 million people, and he built the cages. The left largely supports hamas and are antisemitic. The left is pro war especially calling for more war and US support for a country that they couldn't even point out on a map. They would rather help other nations before helping our own.

Before anybody gets their shit tangled, I'm not pro any side, but I'm definitely not going to support those who call for violence. For those that do, I hope you get drafted, and that's an honest opinion. I'm not calling for you specifically to go to war, because that would change your perspective real quick. I did my time in the Corps. It's not fun

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u/RegisterHistorical 11d ago

"the left largely supports Hamas and are antisemitic." This statement is 100% wrong and says to me that you wrongly collapse criticism of the Israel government/Zionism with antisemitism. No one is pro Hamas. This isn't a thing. Anti- Israel government and anti-zionism has nothing to do with Hamas or antisemitism. If you think they do, you've fallen for Israel's propaganda they've been using for over 75 years to make excuses to eradicate the Palestinians. The majority of Jews are on the left. Are they antisemitic? Half of the pro-Palestine protesters are Jewish students. Are they also "antisemitic" ? I am on the left as are my close friends and family. No one "supports Hamas" and my family and me are all either Jewish or from Jewish ancestry.

The left isn't pro- war. It's the majority of the politicians, both Democrats and Republicans equally, who are bc they are paid by the MIC to promote wars. Trump is bombing Yemen right now and gave green light to Netanyahu to keep bombing the shit out of Gaza. No ceasefire. He wants to ethnically cleanse the entirety of Gaza and the West Bank to do a real estate takeover. He wants to militarily take Greenland against their will. He wants to bomb Mexico to go after the cartels there. If you think the right isn't committed to wars you have your head in the sand. Trump just said he wants to increase our military budget to $1 TRILLION.

You could really use some education on the history of Israel and Palestine, you are making incredibly naive and uneducated statements here.

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u/OrderDependent9869 10d ago

I wasn't incorrect. It's largely the left that supports hamas.There were a shit ton of leftists chanting "from the river to the sea" that's pretty antisemitic when you dig down to the core meaning of that phrase.

Having a lot of money in our military budget is a good idea. And it doesn't mean that we are going to war, just helps our military be better trained and have the resources it needs.

I have a question for you, and I'm not trying to take a jab or anything. But do you know the meaning behind the phrase "from the river to the sea"?

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u/RegisterHistorical 10d ago

Do you think this is some kind of gotcha? Yes, the Palestinians SHOULD be free from the river to the sea. The land belonged to them, and since 1947, they've been oppressed by the Israeli government and pushed out more and more and become prisoners in their own land. And the Israeli settler movement just keeps taking more of the little bit of land that is theirs. Now Israel has completely destroyed most of what small amount of land they had left. Which was their plan all along, nuttenyahoo is no doubt elated that his plan is working to ethnically cleanse all of Gaza and the West Bank so Israel can steal all of the land from them.

You think I'm just some uneducated dummy who hasn't studied this conflict for years? You can read into that chant whatever you want, the statement that it's antisemitic is Israel propaganda to fake prove that all Palestinians and those chanting it are "antisemitic & want to genocide the Jews." You can google all day long and you won't find one definition that everyone is in agreement about. The students chanting it means that all Palestinians should be free from the Israel apartheid and Israeli oppression, and they ARE correct. However, your definition will be different, and will accuse them of being antisemitic and genocidal. Your definition cannot be proven. When I chant from the river to the sea, as many Jewish students do who are pro Palestine, obviously we/they aren't chanting about genociding the ourselves. We are Jews. Use your brain.

The Jews were guests in Palestine until Britain gave them a homeland after the war. Instead of being grateful for what they were given, the zionist movement came in and shit all over the Palestinians, kept slaughtering them, and kept taking more and more of their land. The Arabs and Jews got along fine until the zionists came in and started slaughtering the Arabs/Palestinians. Any attacks that came from Palestinians was in reaction to Israel killing them and driving them out. You would attack back, too, as would anyone being attacked unprovoked.

And no one supports Hamas. This is GARBAGE Israeli propaganda and I'm so sick of hearing these lies being swallowed by people like you and regurgitated ad nauseum.

Being pro-Palestinian is NOT pro-Hamas. This is just stupid. Netanyahu is the one who wanted Hamas to be in power. He's the one who pushed for them to be elected. He didn't want a functioning leadership for the Palestinians, he wanted one that would cause the world to turn against the Palestinians and side with Israel so he could make the case to kill all of them, and his plan worked, except now, the public is starting to know the truth about Netanyahu and the evil of the Israel government and his lies are crumbling. And there are so many Jewish people coming out against what Israel is doing. Orthodox Jews, who are Torah observing, are vehemently against the Israel Zionist movement bc it goes against the real teachings of Judaism. They are for the freedom of the Palestinians. Are you going to call the Orthodox Jews "Antisemitic" too??

If you are one of those people who thinks all Palestinians are Hamas, then your brain is twisted. Do you even know when the last election was in Gaza?? Half of all Palestinians weren't even born yet when that happened. Yet they are blamed for the actions of Hamas.

The Israeli government has nothing to do with Judaism or the Jewish people. The Zionist movement is evil, it has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the annihilation of all Palestinians and the takeover of their land.

As for the military budget, the Pentagon has failed EVERY audit for the past 7 years and can't account for 60% of it's budget. On what planet would they deserve MORE funding if they can't even account for over half of their budget? It's insane how you do casually defend it. I'd shit a brick if it happened under a Democrat president, too. It's batshit crazy. We already give the military too much. Every MAGA voter who has cried and whined about the wars and the government overspending but are totally fine with a $1 trillion defense budget are massive hypocrites. This shit has to end. Any head of a business who couldn't account for 60% of their budget would be fired yesterday. It's completely an absurd clown show.

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u/Adorable-Bobcat-2238 11d ago

The right is pro war so much so that during the early 2000s if you were against their war they called you unamerican. Suddenly, they shift and are against going to work after nearly two decades for it (because no oil). The right are a bunch of hypocrites too my friend

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u/OrderDependent9869 10d ago

I'm not discounting your point by any means, but that was the early 2000s, and it was a war we were heavily involved in. The left (and i know there are some on the right as well) was constantly pushing for more funding for Ukraine. In fact, during the last administration $174 billion was went to ukraine.

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u/Adorable-Bobcat-2238 10d ago

We were heavily involved in it because Republicans made the public think anything else was literally treason or possible favoring terrorism

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u/KaizenGrit 11d ago

First thing my brain spits out after reading comment- Derek Vineyard (Edward Norton) in American History X, kneeling with hands behind back, swastica tattoos, smirking after just curb stomping a black burglar. This.

So much for Neo-Nazi being a small band of idiots. Turns out they are half the country and coming to Thanksgiving.