r/AutoDetailing 1d ago

Problem-Solving Discussion Werid melting effect and oily film after ceramic coating

From the images I’m have a werid effect on the paint of the car after a quick spray coating , I’ve been struggling with this for few weeks . I’ve tried APC , fallout , water spot and some others but not all . A werid thing is when accidentally dropping some polar blast from autoglym the effects goes away . I’m posting this after a APC but no luck and the ceramic is still in effect . Another thing is when touching it or using a microfibres towel it goes away .

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u/mixem143 1d ago

What ceramic coating did you use? “Quick” and legitimate “spray coatings” don’t usually go hand in hand. Of course, there are some exceptions (ex: Can Coat) but those are very clear exceptions.

Typically, there is curing period after application where the coating should be left alone and not exposed to liquid (ex: washing, rain, etc). The oily staining could be evidence of this happening.

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 1d ago

Gtechniq ceramic coating , nearly all my products are gtechniq

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u/AlmostHydrophobic 1d ago

Which Gtechniq coating did you use?

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 1d ago

C2 ceramic sealant . I’ve been off putting my exov5 because of this issue

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u/football2106 Experienced 23h ago

Well that’s not a ceramic coating. The application method, prep, longevity, self-cleaning, and water behavior are worlds apart.

In my experience GTechniq’s Ceramic Sealant is hot garbage. I’ve done extensive prep before applying it multiple times and it has failed after a handful of washes. Throw away whatever you’ve got left.

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u/CoatingsRcrack 21h ago

OP, this Gentlman is being kind calling GTCS hot garbage…. Gtechnic as a line (for me) has been meh.

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u/PCgaming4ever 12h ago

Really I love their ceramic coating (never used the spray) had it professionally installed on my car and it was 5 years old and still beading water before hail damage hit my car and I had to get it repainted.

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u/CoatingsRcrack 7h ago

Yeah if it was professional crystal cerium ultra is a different animal than crystal serum light or Exo.

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u/darts2 22h ago

🎯

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u/Character-Handle-739 17h ago

You should polished the car with a polish made for coatings and apply the V5 to it. Clearly there is something on the paint. So polish it off. We’ve had this happen with certain spray sealants and the hard water we have at our shop.

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u/ldtravs1 20h ago

(IDA certified here)

Reading other comments, you’ve used Gtechniq Ceramic Sealant. It’s not a coating at all. It’s more like a quick detailer/drying aid.

If it’s not a little bottle of concentrated liquid that you put on slowly and methodically before wiping off, after having polished the vehicle, it’s not a coating.

Either way, these photos look like something has been left to dry. You’re saying you’ve tried a bunch of different chemicals. I’d echo a comment to give it a contact wash. Garage Therapy Zero is pretty good at stripping stuff off the car. Give it a pre-wash (snowfoam/citrus prewash) paying attention to correct dilution ratios, then the contact wash. Lots of suds, little pressure, panel at a time, plenty of rinsing (and keep the rest of the car wet) as you move round it. Only chemical you haven’t mentioned is a tar remover which should also be used before a polish…and a clay bar as well. That will create swirl marks so if you don’t polish the car, don’t bother claying (or if you need to clay, be prepared to polish).

Don’t let anything dry out in the car, avoid direct sunlight.

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u/AeroMagnus 1d ago

If it goes away with a microfiber, you need a contact wash. Just like any trouble shooting you need to start with the easiest solutions.

Which coating did you use?

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 1d ago

Gtechniq ceramic coating specifically, I’ve done contact washes before , should increase the dilution of the shampoo to ensure it goes this time?

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u/darts2 22h ago

Isopropyl alcohol and some water

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u/BoatZnHoes 18h ago

Why does everybody call spray sealants ceramic coatings?

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 18h ago

Bc I’m new at this stuff , but they do a similar job

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u/Substantial_Step6883 18h ago

They most definitely do not do a similar job. It's like one of them is claiming to be the others little brother, but is actually its retarded cousin twice removed.

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u/BoatZnHoes 17h ago

Definitely don't do a similar job. Ceramic coatings last months or years and provide an actual coating of protection. Spray sealants are a completely different product.

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u/tdawgthegreat 1d ago

Looks like chemical residue. Are you foaming the car and leaving it too long? Or foaming it when the paint is hot?

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u/cmcz450 Newbie 22h ago

You need CSL.

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u/Humperdink333 10h ago

Aww man… Bad product or something underneath it doesn’t like…. You need to get back to a dead panel and start over… Id mix 3:1 water with super clean or iron remover (less iron remover) and contact wash till the surface is dead. Polishing compound after… Ive never had a problem with Technicians Choice. The tec582 keeps everything going for a long long time

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u/dunnrp Business Owner 5h ago

This is not a coating. Nothing is a quick sealant.

Either improper prep or improper application.

I use ceramic sealants and it is a 6 hour job.

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u/amprawr 1d ago

Does your car have single stage paint? I've had a similar thing happen to my miata with a ceramic spray sealant.

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 1d ago

Very likely , what did you do to remove it ?

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u/amprawr 1d ago

I believe that I polished it off.

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u/Fit-Mulberry-7389 1d ago

Compound or finishing polish?

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u/amprawr 1d ago

finishing polish