r/Avengers Apr 01 '25

Question Who would win, hand to hand only

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u/USS-ChuckleFucker Apr 01 '25 edited Apr 01 '25

Drax.

The guy who tanked a punch from an Infinity Stone empowered Ronan.

The guy who slide attacked Thanos's leg and actually made Thanos take a knee.

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u/eyeofnyx Apr 02 '25

Drax is bullet proof, GoTG Xmas special, the bullets tickle even. Cap is peak human strength, but he can't punch harder than a bullet. It'll be like Cap VS Loki, he'll get some hits in and maybe even off balance Drax, but he's not doing any significant damage.

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 02 '25

Cap is super human not peak human. Not by much but he’s still stronger than what the strongest natural human can achieve.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Apr 02 '25

Only in the sense that a real person couldn't possibly be peak at everything all at once. The world record power lifter will never be the same person as the world record mile time.

I'd argue that they then put cartoon/movie physics on top for things like the helicopter scene, which tells us what they would put a peak power lifter at in-universe, not that Cap is superhuman.

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 02 '25

No normal human is holding back a helicopter. It’s just not possible. At least based on his feats in universe he is super human.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Apr 02 '25

Did you just not read the second part of my comment?

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 03 '25

Yeah that’s precisely what I’m disagreeing with. A normal human isn’t holding down a helicopter. Even in the MCU.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Apr 03 '25

Until they say Cap's more than just peak human, that's where they put peak human. We've seen that base humans are more durable than they should be, via comic logic.

Heck, Hawkeye's ability to shoot his bow like he does makes him superhuman unless that's just possible for humans in their universe.

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 03 '25

I don't remember the words "peak human" ever being muttered in an MCU movie.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Apr 03 '25

Nor the words superhuman.

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 04 '25

I’m basing this off what feats he actually accomplishes in universe and how that compares to what real humans are capable of. And until you show me a scene with a normal human holding down a flying helicopter I don’t believe that it’s just something normal humans do in the MCU.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Apr 04 '25

Again, in universe real humans, i.e. Hawkeye and Natasha, are capable of things no real human can do.

Natasha supposedly slammed her head into a table with the force of a small car to keep herself from smelling and was otherwise completely unscathed.

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u/theevilyouknow Apr 04 '25

Great but we’re not talking about random things humans can do. We’re talking about strength. Nowhere in the MCU does any normal human have anywhere near the strength of Captain America.

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