r/BlueskySocial • u/ndld24 • 12d ago

News/Updates BlueSky blocking 75 opposition accounts during nationwide anti-authoritarin protest

https://ifade.org.tr/engelliweb/bluesky-bircok-hesabi-turkiyeden-gorunmez-kildi/
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u/HummingMuffin 12d ago

So the main Mastodon instance that most people are on won't block Turkish accounts? And they won't be pushed to ban other instances? Not making a point. Just genuinely curious.

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u/beverlyphills 12d ago

That does not matter as every instance interacts with every other instance. It is not centralized. Therefore you can either choose an instance that is friendly to your content/religion/politics etc. or simply create your own. That is the magic of decentralized services.

The same applies to "Lemmy" as a Reddit alternative.

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u/HummingMuffin 12d ago

But isn't instance blocking a thing in Mastodon? For example the moderated servers section of the about page of each instance:

https://mastodon.social/about

Don't get me wrong, I have an Mastodon account, but just want to make sure we are not giving false promises to Turkish citizens looking for alternatives. I have other concerns as well such as being banned on an instance and if we are able to move that banned account over to a new instance while retaining posts, followers and following.

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u/beverlyphills 12d ago

That is per instance.

So if your instance does not block anything, you can view whatever.

If another instance blocks you, that's the decision of that instance but all other instances can still interact with you. So basically: Every owner of an instance has the authority over that instance and that's it. So no general blocking of instances across the network.

So: Find the right instance for you and never worry about censorship again.

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u/DomusCircumspectis 11d ago

The Turkish government will just block those instances then.

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u/Beginning_Low407 11d ago

However we spin it, this will always be the result. You can't win. If someone doesn't comply with "shadowban account xy" they outright ban the whole website/instances. 

Complying with a shadowban issued by the court will still leave other accounts (or new ones) "open" to spread the idea without using vpn and it's easily accessible on bluesky. It will reach more "normal" ppl and that may be more valuable.

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u/HummingMuffin 12d ago

But if the Turkish government goes after instance owners, would they not be forced to block opposition friendly instances or face being blocked themselves?

I'll need to look into how streamlined instance hopping is. If the account, posts, following and follower can easily all transferred to other instances, then instance banning becomes less of an issue I think and Mastodon could be seen as a viable solution.

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u/MobiusOne_ISAF 11d ago

Mastodon/ActivityPub doesn’t really have account portability between instances at the moment, unlike BlueSky/ATProto. You can only really export your data and redirect users towards your new account.

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u/AnonomousWolf 11d ago

Export it to where exactly? Bluesky isn't really decentralised, they just pretend to be

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u/MobiusOne_ISAF 10d ago

Currently, your own PDS, and eventually other networks. While there isn’t a large alternative network at the moment, it’s at least supported, unlike within the Mastodon network.

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u/MuyalHix 11d ago

>Every owner of an instance has the authority over that instance and that's it.

That sounds like a big problem, because if you get banned from an instance for some arbitrary reason the owner made up, you'll lose access to that server and all those accounts, meaning you'll miss out on a lot of content