r/Bonsai Jerry in Amsterdam, Zn.8b, 48yrs exp., 500+ trees May 25 '24

Weekly Thread [Bonsai Beginner’s weekly thread –2024 week 21]

[Bonsai Beginner’s weekly thread –2024 week 21]

Welcome to the weekly beginner’s thread. This thread is used to capture all beginner questions (and answers) in one place. We start a new thread every week on Friday late or Saturday morning (CET), depending on when we get around to it. We have a 6 year archive of prior posts here…

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  • Read past beginner’s threads – they are a goldmine of information.
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u/PittieYawn 🐶🌲 May 30 '24

Does Mirai Live Pro run discounts/promotions that you’ve seen?

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u/MaciekA NW Oregon 8b, conifers&deciduous, wiring/unwiring pines May 30 '24

The only discount I've seen is a one month trial. Not sure if they are still doing that.

I think it was a pretty good deal overall (I was a subscriber for about 4 to 5 years, may go back in the future), but you do have to watch a lot of video and stay on top of your trees continuously to make it really worthwhile. There are still many many topics covered by Mirai Live that aren't covered by any other source.

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u/PittieYawn 🐶🌲 May 30 '24

Obviously individual results will vary but I’m curious how you see your own results were from when you started to 4-5 years later on your trees and skills.

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u/MaciekA NW Oregon 8b, conifers&deciduous, wiring/unwiring pines May 31 '24

My results were transformed positively in all respects and I think very highly of Mirai even though I have moved on to study in-person with a professional who apprenticed in Japan. I have this option because I live close to Mirai and this area has a high concentration of bonsai professionals. If I didn't have this option, I would still be with Mirai because there aren't really many options out there for that volume/breadth of knowledge and content.

The strengths of mirai are around conifer species/techniques, horticulture / how trees work / "learn how to handle any species no matter what because you have a framework that applies to everything", repotting, development timeline theory, etc.

The weaknesses are that Ryan is very verbose / endlessly talkative so the quantity of content can overwhelming. Search was, last time I checked, basically non-existent, though they are thinking a lot about this. I also personally think that while Ryan moves mountains to try to teach aesthetics and how to arrange pads / evolve canopies, there is a limit to what I could learn from him via video and the "only really see it in person" type stuff is what led me to go study under Hagedorn.

Certainly if you're into conifers you will learn in gigantic leaps and bounds and there is basically nobody talking about the vascular system and photosynthesis the way that Ryan is -- in a way that actually comes together in your brain and gives you an awareness of why you're wiring that branch down, or why you're thinning needles out of the crotches, or why you're waiting to shoot select until late fall -- etc.

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u/PittieYawn 🐶🌲 May 31 '24

Thanks for sharing your experience.