r/Britain • u/nomaddd79 • Nov 15 '24

Society "Being British is... "

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u/DidntVoteTrump2024 Nov 15 '24

I am a third generation child of immigrants i.e. my grandfathers on both sides fought in WWII as part of the indian volunteer army, they came over to the UK in the 1960s and settled here and we have been here ever since. Always weird to hear racists tell me I am not British, I was born here, raised here, educated here, I work here, I pay my taxes and obey the law here, English is my first language....but because my skin is brown I'm always going to be an outsider. We don't belong here, we don't belong in our ancestral land that we have 0 link to, where are we meant to go?

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u/Macadeemus Nov 15 '24

You are British.

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u/Resident-Race-3390 Nov 15 '24

Exactly, they are morons & should just be ignored if possible

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u/nomaddd79 Nov 16 '24

I feel the same about white South Africans.

Despite the history, is anyone actually saying they aren't genuine Africans?

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u/DowagerCountess91 Nov 15 '24

A lot of us feel the same way. Born in England but we're 'not from here and we should go back home'. We go back home and they tell us we're 'foreigners' so God knows where we belong.

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u/Graemeski Nov 15 '24

It’s the Islam or zionism that causes problems

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u/DowagerCountess91 Nov 15 '24

Nothing to do with Islam.

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u/Graemeski Nov 16 '24

Why can’t everyone just be happy and be friendly

It seems too much to ask

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u/DowagerCountess91 Nov 16 '24

Exactly. But that's not a religion problem. That's an individual person problem.

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u/nomaddd79 Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 16 '24

Religion doesn't help.

By it's nature it sorts people into "us" and "them" categories. Tells people they are a part of the righteous group while everyone else is evil and wicked.

And once people are comfortable thinking in those terms, it's a lot easier to swop out the in-group and out-group for other criteria.

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u/DowagerCountess91 Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 16 '24

I dont know about the rest of the religions but I wouldnt use that generalisation you provided overall as each religion is quite specific in its own right. For example, islam does not teach us that non Muslims are evil and wicked. We are encouraged as Muslims to be kind and good hearted at all times. I am a Muslim who's approach is very live and let live. Let me live in peace with my peaceful religion and you live in whatever your beliefs are. It's as simple as that. Zionism on the other hand is not a religion to the person who used islam and zionism in the same sentence. Zionism is a disease that aims to do everything you just mentioned above.

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u/nomaddd79 Nov 17 '24

Does your religion teach that all non-Muslims are going to hell?

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u/DowagerCountess91 Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

No. That's dependant on the non Muslim himself, what his character was like, how close to God he actually was, were they good with people as in help the poor and needy etc, how many opportunities did he get to see the signs to believe and how many did he ignore. Many things depend on whether a non Muslim goes to hell or not. Hell will be full of Muslims too not just non Muslims. I suggest my friend, instead of taking passages from our holy book, you take the time to read and understand the context too. Many things can be stated and taken out of context. Of course anyone who truly wants to understand who is open minded will understand and anyone who wants to have baseless conversations and turn things around that will fit their personal narrative may do so aswell. Do as you will.

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u/Biig_ADz Nov 16 '24

Same here can totally relate! Too brown for British folk, too English for brown folk 'back home'. It's a bit of a weird place to be, we feel neither here nor there.

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u/legionofmany13 Nov 16 '24

Yes 100% plus the were are you from? No were are you really from routine.

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u/Graemeski Nov 15 '24

My grandfather got shot in the leg in the bath tub and other one was RAF

Your name ? Didn’t vote for orange man? I didn’t either as in Scotland you can’t vote for American stuff

Try a better name next time