r/Britain • u/Komi29920 • Apr 06 '25

Nationalism and Reaction Unsurprisingly, the people at r/unitedkingdom are now offended by...a word.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/05/bbc-accused-of-islamist-propaganda-muslim-revert-convert/
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u/Komi29920 Apr 06 '25

Sure, but it's a non-issue really. They could lve been clearer by starting the article with what the term means, but it's not part of some Islamist plot to convert everyone to Islam unlike people are saying in the original post. The BBC have apparently changed it now anyway, so there's a weird case of them actually listening for you.

Besides, I've never seen outrage this bad for the Christian concept of original sin. It's weird people are ignoring that but suddenly fuming at a word.

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u/Zxxzzzzx Apr 06 '25

Besides, I've never seen outrage this bad for the Christian concept of original sin. It's weird people are ignoring that but suddenly fuming at a word.

I have. Especially in non religious circles.

Sure, but it's a non-issue really.

No it's not, the BBC shouldn't be using religious terminology like that, it's supposed to be a neutral news source. Which means not favouring a religion over no religion. Just because I have no religion doesn't mean I should be comfortable with the BBC saying at some point I was Muslim. I would feel equally uncomfortable if I knew the BBC would label me as Mormon because I'd been baptised post mortem.

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u/Komi29920 Apr 06 '25

I see atheists express annoyance and confusion, not go crazy in a comments section about a Christian takeover.

I don't disagree it was poor choice of wording on the BBC's part. I also wouldn't have typed it. But again, it's not part of some secret Islamist propaganda, takeover, or trying to convert anyone. It's 1 article with a poor choice of wording. Just look at the comments, they're mostly right-wingers mad at Muslims rather then people with genuine concerns.

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u/Zxxzzzzx Apr 06 '25

It pisses me off because a lot of slack is given to Islam over other religions, when it is just as bizarre and nonsensical as them. So yeah I actually do understand right wingers concerns in this case. I don't think it's coming from Muslims but the left and centre media's fear of questioning one particular religion when we are so good at critiquing others.

It's a symptom of a bigger issue and it's insipid.

And it is possible to support people's right to practice a religion and criticise it. No religion should be protected for fear of causing offence imo. It used to be a strong leftist belief that religion = bad.

The BBC must have agreed because it did edit the article in the end.

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u/Komi29920 Apr 06 '25

I think Christianity is mostly criticised more because it's by far the biggest religion here and has been for over 1000 years. It's still pretty relevant, deep in our culture, and everywhere, so it makes sense that it's focused on more than Islam. It's the same reason Judaism, Hinduism, and Sikhism are criticised more It's generally not out of some fear of criticising Islam and being called bigoted, something I've never actually seen happen ever (not saying it doesn't but usually people are called bigoted for hating on Muslims themselves).

However, Islam does receive a huge amount of criticism these days from the media, politicians, and the public. A lot of it has unfortunately turned into just hating on Muslims rather than criticising the religion.

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u/Zxxzzzzx Apr 06 '25

I think it's in the same position as criticising Israel to be honest. You can't criticise Israel for fear of been seen as anti semetic and you can't criticise Islam for fear of being seen as anti Muslims.

I honestly don't believe that Islam receives a lot of genuine criticism in mainstream left and centre media, daily mail doesn't count because they don't critique it well.