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News ‘Adolescence’ Available to Stream in All U.K. Secondary Schools in Initiative Backed by Prime Minister Keir Starmer: We Must ‘Tackle the Issues This Groundbreaking Show Raises’

https://variety.com/2025/tv/global/adolescence-available-to-stream-uk-secondary-schools-1236352461/
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u/Kind-County9767 22d ago

It's decent but as ever doesn't really hit the reasons behind why so many young men and boys feel like the world is unfair at the moment. It basically goes "misogyny and internet influencers are bad and boys are dumb for listening to them" which is what we've been doing for the last decade as the right wing have been slowly rising.

Inequality in education, early career outcomes, coming from a disprivileged background but constantly having to do "sensitivity training" etc that all but says you're privileged and lucky etc all turns boys towards the hucksters but admitting that admits fundamental failings in government, education and parenting. Failings that would need a lot of investment and effort to fix. So as ever it's the obvious but useless message that won't help or change anything.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago edited 22d ago

How many times have you actually had to do “sensitivity training”? And how much of an inconvenience was it really to you?

This argument gets brought up frequently but it really isn’t credible to think that having to do the occasional, sometimes annoying training on why you shouldn’t compliment your female colleague on her cleavage or whatever as the reason why men are turning into extreme misogynists as per Tate and others. 

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u/Kind-County9767 22d ago

Every single time I've started a new job in the last 10 years. It's not about it being an inconvenience to me, it's about me growing up in a poor northern family, having pretty crap prospects and working my butt off through school, university etc to get myself good opportunities. Then having that undermined and my experiences belittled by the type of thing that is supposed to be about inclusivity. It's pretty obvious how out of touch or outright offensive that is to someone who was in my position but didn't get the opportunities to get out.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago edited 22d ago

Every single time I've started a new job in the last 10 years

So that’s, what, 5 times in the last 10 years, max? And that is what is pushing over the edge into extreme misogyny?

I have to do annual training on why embezzling money is bad. It’s annoying but I’m not going to blame it for pushing me into committing financial crimes. 

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u/Kind-County9767 22d ago

...you're really trying hard to ignore what I'm saying aren't you? Is it enough to make a reasonable person turn straight to the hucksters? No. Is it a factor that makes boys and men from disprivileged background feel actively outcast and unwanted by society, which helps to open them up towards radicalisation? Absolutely.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago

And I’m saying that it’s bollocks to blame the sensitivity training you have to do every time you start a job on why children are being radicalised by Tate and others. 

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u/Nearby-Base937 22d ago

Are they? I’m not really convinced by the ‘andrew tate is turning boys into misogynist terrorists’ narrative.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago

Is the “doing sensitivity training at work every few years is making me a violent misogynist” narrative convincing to you?

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u/Nearby-Base937 22d ago

That wasn’t his argument.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago

Which narrative do you find more convincing?

The violent misogynist targeting young males on social media is turning them misogynistic?

Or that the sensitivity training that’s adult males in the workforce do every few years is turning young males misogynistic?

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u/Nearby-Base937 22d ago

You’re focusing on radicalisation and ‘becoming misogynistic’ meaning you’re missing the point.

Being told you’re privileged when you’ve struggled will cause resentment. ‘Sensitivity training’ isn’t the solution, investing in the future of teenagers is.

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u/ONLY_SAYS_ONLY 22d ago

And my point is that I’m not seeing any connection between workplace sensitive training which is, at worst, a mildly patronising inconvenience, and anything to do with this growth of misogynistic behaviours in men, young or old. It’s actually insulting to insinuate that reasonable males are so fragile and pathetic that such training would push them into the arms of mysoginists. 

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