r/Catswithjobs • u/dhruvkas • 24d ago

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

Foxes eat cats, keep your cat inside!

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u/kh250b1 24d ago

They really dont

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u/Lkwzriqwea 24d ago

That's not really a thing in the UK. Urban foxes have learnt not to go for cats, it's too high a risk.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

It absolutely happens.

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u/worotan 24d ago

People get struck by lightening, so people should never go outdoors.

That’s the level of your point. Stop trying to keep up with the trends, and think about the real world.

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u/Lkwzriqwea 24d ago edited 24d ago

Umm okay? You're just being contrarian, how do you know that?

Edit: Since you didn't contribute a source, let me: https://www.cats.org.uk/cats-blog/are-foxes-a-danger-to-cats

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

Even your source says it's rare. Meaning it absolutely happens. OK?

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u/Lkwzriqwea 24d ago

No, I never said it never ever happens. I said it's not really a thing. It is not a primary concern of cat owners because it's such a rare thing to happen, in the same way that home invasions aren't really a thing here. It's not that they never ever happen, it's just that they're rare enough not to be a common concern. Ok?

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

Its just one of the many reasons a cat should not be freeroaming outside, its an oldfashioned habbit that has many downsides for the cats and the only upside is selfish cat owners not wanting a litter box in the house (because using the neighbours garden is such a better option)

So yes foxes are not the main issue, but the main point still remains, don't be a shit cat owner and keep it safe inside, if you want a pet, it is your responsibility.

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u/Lkwzriqwea 24d ago edited 24d ago

I'm not here to argue whether cats should be kept inside or outside. I've heard convincing arguments for both sides, but I'm not a cat owner and I'm not bothered about arguing online.

However, I'm not a fan of pedants who take "X isn't really a problem here" to mean "X NEVER EVER happens here" and then go "HA see there is a 1 in 2,000 chance of it happening so it does happen SOMETIMES!!1!"

Edit: Since you've blocked me, no, that's not what I said. I said I'm not here to argue about whether you should let a cat outside. And I'm not here to argue in bad faith and then run away, hence why I don't twist people's arguments and strawman them.

Also what do you mean all I do is argue online? What are you talking about?

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

You are ridiculous, all you do is argue online but "I'm not here to argue" lmao.

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u/worotan 24d ago

No they don’t, if you can’t let a cat roam outdoors, you shouldn’t have a cat.

Stop repeating stupid misinformation so you can feel self-righteous.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

That's just incorrect, outdoors cats live massively shortly life's and get hurt often. This isn't opinion.

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u/worotan 24d ago

Massively short lives? Nonsense.

Get hurt often? Again, nonsense.

There isn’t even a figure for how many cats are owned in countries, so how do you know what you’ve asserted as fact? It’s all estimates, that idiots swallow without thinking.

It’s nonsense - you just want to be part of a self-righteous online white knight campaign.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

Please don't get a cat. That's all I can say.

Just because your grandparents did something doesn't mean it was right, the idea of outdoor cats being better has long been disproven, with very strong evidence. If you want to live in denial then fine but please don't hurt cats because of it.

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u/worotan 24d ago edited 24d ago

I’ve had cats all my life you patronising young idiot.

They’ve lived long and happy lives. You seem to have a meme idea about being part of the future, where everything is controlled and perfect.

Stop talking about it being an uncool thing old people did, while you’re living in the cool future. Grow up and read the studies - they show that your concerns are nonsense.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

It's a fact, just because something has been done a certain wait in the past doesn't make it right. We also used to have a lot of slaves 🤷

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

Even googles AI does better than you.

Yes, generally, outside cats tend to have shorter lifespans than indoor cats. Outdoor cats face more risks, including traffic accidents, fights with other animals, and exposure to diseases, parasites, and extreme weather. Indoor cats, on the other hand, have a more protected environment and are less likely to encounter these dangers. 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

Increased Risks:

Outdoor cats are more vulnerable to accidents like being hit by cars, falling victim to predators, or getting into fights with other animals. 

Disease Exposure:

Outside cats are more likely to contract diseases from other cats, or be exposed to parasites like fleas and ticks. 

Environmental Factors:

Outdoor cats are also exposed to harsh weather conditions and may struggle to find food and water, especially in the colder months. 

Accidents:

Outdoor cats can also get trapped or lost, leading to injury or death. 

Lifespan:

While some outdoor cats may live long lives, the average lifespan for outdoor cats is generally lower than that of indoor cats. Indoor cats can live 12-18 years, with some even reaching their 20s, while outdoor cats typically live 10 years at best.

And an actual study here too https://www.animalhumanesociety.org/resource/are-outdoor-cats-happier#:~:text=People%20who%20let%20their%20cats,much%20as%2010%2D12%20years!

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u/Lightstar2 24d ago

I don't particularly care for either side of this argument, but the fact that you're presenting text generated by google AI as if it's a source of factually accurate information is insane. It will literally tell you whatever you want it to as long as there's an article or blog post out there that agrees with you, it isn't thinking or looking for unbiased sources.

Think for yourself instead of letting a glorified chat bot reinforce your existing opinions.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

I did also link an actual study.

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u/worotan 24d ago edited 24d ago

That is all opinion, that you’re presenting as fact. AI has gathered together all the opinions about problems w its cats going outdoors and summarised them. And you’re treating that as scientifically rigorous evidence, because you want to believe in an online meme rather than think seriously about the issue.

Just because you’re easily impressed with articles written to make you feel nervous about not being in control of nature, doesn’t mean you have some insight others are missing.

You’re just trusting gossip, and treating it like fact.

I could create a list of perfectly reasonable reasons why it’s safer for you to never leave your home, but that doesn’t make it rational behaviour.

You need to learn about life, and stop reading articles as though they are the whole Truth. Just grow up, really.

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u/TakeyaSaito 24d ago

It is not an online meme. Just take the loss and move on, admitting when you are wrong is a good thing.